ChatGPT (AI) analysis of my US Coin Type Set

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by geekpryde, Sep 30, 2026 at 10:44 PM.

  1. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Well, I just spend the last few hours with ChatGPT and my ~135 coin Type set. I'm very pleased with the results. It found a few small errors in my type year ranges, suggested some new coin slots, added diameter, weight, edge type, to all my Type slots, among other things. Works remarkably well.

    Basically anyone with an excel spreadsheet for their coin collection that wants some insight, and doesn't mind sharing the coin details, it would be well worth you time to upload it. Even if just for catching errors.

    I also found the insight into my collection interesting, which is why I am sharing it here. I know one or two of you with think this is cool. :cool:

    this is some of what it had to say:

    1. The strongest pattern is grade versus age
    Your collection isn't pursuing a uniform minimum grade. Instead, the grade rises almost continuously as the coins become younger and more available:

    Coin date......Owned.....Median numeric grade
    Before 1800.........4.........3.5
    1800–1849.........23.........30
    1850–1899.........40.........51.5
    1900–1949.........33.........64
    1950–1999.........22.........66
    2000-present........9.........69

    That's a remarkably clean progression.

    It tells me you're essentially practicing era-adjusted condition collecting: early coins are allowed to be heavily circulated because simply owning an attractive, problem-free example is the accomplishment; by the 20th century, your standard naturally rises to Choice/Gem Mint State; modern representatives are essentially superb-grade pieces.

    That's quite different from registry-set optimization, where grade points and weighting explicitly drive rankings.

    2. Your date choices aren't simply “buy the cheapest common date”
    This was the part I found most interesting.

    Among representatives whose type has a finite multi-year range:

    • 23 are the first year of their type
    • 23 are the last year
    • 62 are somewhere inside the type's run
    • another 18 represent single-year types
    So roughly 35% of your applicable representatives are boundary-year coins—either the introduction or final year of the design/type.

    That makes the collection more historically expressive than one assembled solely by asking, “What's the cheapest date for this type?”

    PCGS's traditional description of type collecting specifically says collectors commonly identify the more common dates and buy the nicest examples they can afford. Your choices frequently depart from that simple model.

    3. Your mint mark distribution is:

    Mint
    .......Coins
    Philadelphia/no mintmark*.......90
    San Francisco.......18
    Denver.......13
    New Orleans.......7
    West Point 2
    Carson City 1
    Manila 1

    *For these purposes I'm treating blank as predominantly Philadelphia, while recognizing that the colonial/token/medal material isn't literally Philadelphia Mint production.

    So yes, the collection is overwhelmingly Philadelphia.

    But your 19th-century branch-mint coins are disproportionately interesting. You have O-mint Seated material across several denominations, including the 1838-O No Stars dime, 1840-O No Drapery dime and half dime, 1840-O No Drapery quarter and 1860-O Seated dollar.

    And there's a CC representative—the 1877-CC Seated quarter.

    So you haven't pursued mint diversity for its own sake. Rather, branch mints appear where they make the individual type representative more interesting.

    4. PCGS dominates, but NGC is substantial

    You own:

    102 PCGS (77.3%)
    30 NGC (22.7%)


    That's about 3.4 PCGS coins for every NGC coin.

    I wouldn't interpret that as a judgment about the services. It simply tells us that over years of hand-selecting coins, your collection has naturally become heavily PCGS-oriented.

    5. Your remaining holes are now extremely concentrated
    This is perhaps the best measure of how mature the collection has become.

    You currently have 132 filled slots out of 141 = 93.6% complete.

    And only 9 NEED slots remain:

    1. Draped Bust Heraldic Eagle Dime
    2. 1807–08 Original Design Capped Bust Half
    3. Liberty Head $2.50
    4. 1903–04 large 10 Centavos
    5. 1903–05 large 20 Centavos
    6. 1907–29 reduced 20 Centavos
    7. 1903–05 large 50 Centavos
    8. 1903–06 large Peso
    9. Lafayette Dollar
    What's striking is their concentration.

    Five of the nine are U.S.-Philippines.

    So your mainstream U.S. type collection is actually much closer to completion than the raw 93.6% figure suggests. The recent decision to split the Philippines denominations by physical type created a large portion of the remaining holes.

    6. What I think the collection says about you as a collector
    After looking at the actual coins rather than just the slot definitions, I'd characterize it as a historically oriented advanced type collection with condition expectations scaled to availability.

    You aren't chasing registry points. You aren't imposing an arbitrary grade floor. You aren't simply buying the cheapest date that satisfies each slot. And you're not using Proofs to make difficult circulation types easier.

    Instead, the pattern is roughly:

    Early rarity → accept honest circulation.
    19th century → seek increasingly strong circulated/low-MS examples.
    20th century → generally Mint State.
    Modern → extremely high grade.


    At the same time, you seem to have a noticeable attraction to transition points—first/last years, short-lived designs, physical changes, unusual denominations and significant subtypes. That matches what we've seen when deciding which rows deserve separate slots. PCGS notes that type collecting doesn't have one universally correct definition and can be expanded into more technical differences according to the collector's interests; your set is very much in that latter category.


    Example question I asked at the end of the analysis:

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    Filling in the diameter and weight and metal composition for each coin I own was worth the price of admission alone, however it did all suggest some edits / fixes.

    An example corrections it found for me:

    Liberty Head Nickel, With CENTS — 1883–1913 should be 1883–1912. The famous 1913 Liberty nickels were not a normal circulation issue, so 1913 shouldn't define the range of your business-strike type.

    Also, your Silver Eagle Type 2 Eagle Landing row says 2023–Present, but your own representative coin is a 2021-W. The redesign actually began during 2021, with both Type 1 and Type 2 produced that year. The Mint specifically says the new reverse began appearing in mid-2021. That one is an unambiguous correction to 2021–Present. :oops:

    It talked to me A ALOT about my set, and probably could keep doing so. I am just sharing some key points here on CT. I just wanted to give you AI-skeptics a little real world example of how this can help your hobby.


    TLDR: AI doesn't need to be so pie-in-the-sky or an all encompassing menace, it can just be like a handy and polite secretary that tells you when you've made a mistake that you would otherwise not notice. ;)
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Analysis like this can be fun, can't it. I'm always compiling statistics and stuff in my head. Even though most of it is for my own benefit and never gets shared.
     
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  4. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting and thanks for posting. Will ChatGPT keep a record of your collection for who-knows-what future use?

    Mike
     
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  5. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Well, I just assume any content you give online is public, even if they say otherwise. Basically, I already participate in multiple coin registries/ collection managers. So this information of my what I own is already shared all over the place. Because of that, I felt comfortable taking this small extra step.
     
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  6. bud250r

    bud250r Well-Known Member

    I really like that. Very interesting and detailed.
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I am surprised that they have included the Pilipino coins in a U.S. type set. Yes, it was a U.S. possession at one time, but it was not part of the United States. Yes, they are listed in The Red Book, but they are in a separate chapter, like the California gold territorial pieces. I’ve never seen those coins included in any on-line registry or type coin album. They don’t belong in the set in my opinion.

    As for uniform grades, that is impossible unless you have infinite funds and can buy the early coins in high grade, or are willing collect "junk" for the real common material.

    When I was building my set, I preferred AU coins for the pre-1808 types. I could not afford to do that with the 1795-8 Draped Bust, Small eagle types. My 1796 Quarter is a VF-25, and my 1796-7 half dollar, which is hardest silver type coin of them all, is a Fine-15.

    As for collecting the first and last year, you can do what you want. I think that finding a really attractive coin, which you can afford, is more important than worrying about the first and last years.
     
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  8. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Aside from a few minor corrections to your labeling, what did it tell you that you didn’t already know?
     
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Not that much actually. You have to remember that I have been a type collector since the mid 1960s. I was trying to fill the two Library of Coins type coin albums back then. I have everything from the 1792 half disme to around 1985. That includes the commemorative coins. I stopped collecting the modern commemoratives about 10 years ago and sold off a few.

    This year's round of foolishness is way too much for me. I am not a "privy mark" fan at all. That stuff is made to sell, nothing else.
     
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  10. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I was actually asking @geekpryde but I didn’t make that clear.
     
  11. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    You are correct in your assumption that I did not gain some massive new understanding about my own collection, I knew most of it already. I have the stats already, and know how to produce them quickly in an ad-hoc manner as needed.

    However, I am also highly organized and sort of geek out on the "cataloging" part of the hobby. I don't know for certain of course, but I would imagine my coin database is beyond the scope of 95% of collectors, even if my coin count is quite small.

    I think the real magic would be to upload a collection with limited info, (e.g. only year, mint mark, denomination, or perhaps only cert#, and let it populate the 30+ columns of data for each coin. Essentially replicate my database but with close to zero effort.

    ChatGPT basically told me it can take total garbage from someone, like a badly organized collection of coins, malformed excel file, and produce all the fields that I already had, with minimal effort. I did not test it, but based on the filling in diameter, weight, metal composition, for each coin. I have close to zero doubt about it's ability to do so.

    Example of how specific it was, it assigned a composition value for every single slot in my Type set, and did so quickly. Here is a summary of that work:

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    It would have taken me quite some time and effort researching each of these Type slots.
     
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  12. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I really like expanding the typical Type set to include some non-traditional items like US Medals, Bullion coins, US Philippines, Colonials, private tokens, etc.

    I wanted a representative type set of what really happened with coins in this country. It would be hard to do that without including things like hard time tokens, or private and foreign colonial issues.

    I agree, I never had any interest in that, and I dont think hardly anyone tries, so my set is not really unique for varying the grades. I do think perhaps my set varies them MORE than the average set, as I was specifically trying to get at least 1 example from every numeric grade. I think perhaps people hover around grade "buckets" more than I do, like mostly AU coins, or mostly XF coins, etc. ChatGPT likely noticed my extreme spread.

    I agree 100%. I never attempted to buy the first year, last year, or any any specific mix. I bought what I liked and what I could afford. I "accidentally" bought a lot of first year and last years coins, and the AI read more into it than was true.

    Thank you for your comments.
     
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  13. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I deliberately bought first and last year of the various Barber dime hub types in addition to the transition anomalies 1899-1905 (mostly S mint). If I threw that at AI I bet it would be very confused.
     
  14. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    @johnmilton . Different strokes for different folks. I have always emphasized First/Last years, All mintmarks possible. I'm real big on different designs in the same year, plus I love to persue small sub-sets in long run coin series; IE;all the New Orleans coins or all the type 1 coins or a set of say all the coins with arrows.
    It just takes longer because a coin has to give me thrills and chills too. James
     
  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    I’m 100% in agreement with that, and follow that sort of playbook myself. I’m too eclectic to stay within the traditional boundaries, even if those little sideshows dilute my budget and compete for my attention.

    Of course in my case, I’m SO eclectic that one could say the organized type set portion of my collection is actually the sideshow and the rest is the main event. If I were to sell off my World and Ancient collections as well as my Exonumia and commems, I could build a much nicer and more complete US Type set by focusing more exclusively on that. But I’m not willing to do that. There’s just so much other fun and interesting stuff out there.
     
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  16. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Very cool suggestion this is what I got on my 19th type set:

    What do you think of this 19th century type set?


    Analysis paused
    I think this is a very good 19th-century type set, and—more importantly—it looks like you've been building it with a collector's eye rather than simply filling holes.

    I went through the spreadsheet coin by coin. Your set currently has a strong concentration in Bust, Seated, and early copper, which fits particularly well with the varieties you've been interested in.

    What stands out to me
    1. Your early copper is excellent.

    • 1802 Draped Bust Cent PCGS AU-53 CAC, S-236 — $xxxx
    • 1820 Coronet Cent PCGS MS-64+ CAC, N-13 — $xxxx
    • 1834 Classic Head Half Cent PCGS MS-64 BN CAC
    • 1855 Braided Hair Half Cent PCGS MS-65 BN CAC
    The 1802 S-236 AU-53 CAC and 1820 N-13 MS-64+ CAC are particularly nice type-set choices. You're not just putting an inexpensive example in the slot—you've picked coins with recognized varieties and strong grades.

    And knowing your interest in Newcomb varieties, having N-13 in the set is a nice touch.

    2. Your Bust half dollar choices are strong
    The 1806 Draped Bust Half, PCGS XF-45, O-115A is one of my favorite coins in the spreadsheet.

    You paid $xxxx, and the fact that it's attributed as O-115A makes it substantially more interesting than an anonymous XF-45 type coin.

    Then you have:

    • 1828 Capped Bust Half — PCGS AU-55 CAC
    • 1836 Capped Bust Half, 50 CENTS — PCGS AU-58 CAC
    That's a very nice progression.

    And given our recent discussion about the 1839-O Reeded Edge half, I would definitely consider eventually adding an 1838–39 "HALF DOL." type to complete that portion of the set.

    3. The Seated material is one of the strongest parts of the collection
    You have some excellent coins here:

    • 1838 Seated Half Dime — PCGS MS-64 CAC, large stars/no drapery
    • 1857 Seated Half Dime — PCGS MS-65 CAC
    • 1872 Seated Half Dime — PCGS MS-65+ CAC
    • 1838 Seated Dime — PCGS MS-65 CAC, F-113
    • 1888 Seated Dime — PCGS MS-66 CAC
    • 1857 Seated Quarter — PCGS MS-63 CAC
    • 1868 Seated Quarter — NGC MS-63
    • 1856-O Seated Half — PCGS AU-55 CAC
    • 1854-O Seated Half — NGC AU-58 CAC
    • 1877-CC Seated Half — PCGS AU-50
    The 1868 Seated Quarter is especially appropriate for this set. You specifically researched that date's scarcity before acquiring it, and putting a relatively scarce date in the type slot makes the collection much more interesting.

    4. I really like the 20-cent piece
    1875 PCGS AU-58 — $xxxx

    That's a very appropriate choice for the type set. You could have used a much cheaper circulated 20-cent piece, but AU-58 gives you a coin that holds its own against the rest of the collection.

    5. Your later 19th-century coins are generally high quality
    The back half of the set gets quite strong:

    • 1864 Indian Cent MS-66 RB CAC
    • 1864 Two Cent MS-65 RB CAC
    • 1880 Three Cent Nickel MS-65 CAC
    • 1882 Shield Nickel MS-64
    • 1899 Liberty Nickel MS-65 CAC
    • 1888 Seated Dime MS-66 CAC
    • 1898-O Barber Dime MS-65 CAC
    • 1892 Barber Quarter MS-65 CAC
    • 1892 Barber Half MS-65 CAC
    • 1875-S Trade Dollar MS-63 CAC
    • 1897-O Morgan AU-58 CAC
    That's a very consistent quality level.

    Where I think the set needs work
    If your goal is to complete the PCGS-style 19th Century Type Set, there are some fairly important holes.

    Early section
    You're missing:

    • Classic Head Cent
    • Braided Hair Cent
    • Flying Eagle Cent
    • Three Cent Silver Type 1
    • Three Cent Silver Type 2
    • Shield Nickel Rays
    • Draped Bust Half Dime
    • Draped Bust Dime
    • Liberty Seated Dime No Stars
    • Liberty Seated Dime Drapery
    • Liberty Seated Quarter No Drapery
    • Liberty Seated Quarter Arrows No Motto
    • Capped Bust Half Dollar "HALF DOL."
    • 1839 Seated Half Dollar No Drapery
    • Bust Dollar
    • Seated Dollar With Motto
    That's quite a few holes, but I wouldn't rush them.

    The nice thing about your existing collection is that the bar is already pretty high. I'd rather see you leave a slot empty for a year than drop a mediocre coin into it.

    If this were my set
    I'd prioritize the next purchases roughly by importance to the overall character of the collection, rather than simply filling the spreadsheet in order.

    I'd look particularly hard for:
    1. 1808–1814 Classic Head Cent

    This is the biggest early-copper hole. Given your interest in varieties, I'd want something with a legitimate attribution rather than a generic example.

    2. 1839 Seated Half Dollar, No Drapery

    This would fit beautifully alongside your Bust halves and later Seated halves.

    3. 1838–39 Capped Bust Reeded Edge Half — "HALF DOL."

    Especially after our discussion of the 1839-O. I'd actually be tempted to make this a variety-focused purchase, rather than just buying the first example you encounter.

    4. Three Cent Silver Type 1 or Type 2

    You've already been looking for these. I'd continue looking for a PCGS AU-55/AU-58, preferably with original surfaces/toning.

    5. Flying Eagle Cent

    A nice PCGS MS example would dramatically improve the transition from large cents to Indian cents.

    6. Draped Bust Dime

    This is one of the major early silver holes. A nice problem-free VF/AU example would fit your collection extremely well.

    One thing I really like about your set
    It isn't uniformly "MS65 everything."

    You've allowed rarity, variety, historical importance, and eye appeal to determine the grade.

    For example:

    1806 Half — XF45
    1806 Quarter — VF25
    1825/4/2 Quarter — VF25
    1853 Seated Quarter — XF45
    1877-CC Half — AU50

    while other slots are:

    1820 Cent — MS64+
    1888 Seated Dime — MS66
    1892 Barber Quarter — MS65
    1892 Barber Half — MS65

    That makes the collection feel much more like a serious 19th-century collection than a registry exercise.

    PCGS's own 19th Century Type Set framework includes many of these same design transitions—including the separate Three Cent Silver types, Seated varieties, 20-cent piece, Trade Dollar and Morgan Dollar—so your spreadsheet is clearly following a legitimate type-set structure rather than an arbitrary grouping.

    My overall impression
    The collection is already quite advanced. The standout is the quality of the early copper and Seated material, and the variety attributions add another layer that I think suits your collecting style particularly well.

    If you want, I can take your spreadsheet and make you a "next 10 coins" acquisition plan, identifying the empty slots where I'd look for VF–AU examples versus MS examples, and approximate target prices for each based on current market conditions.
     
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  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    What is even funnier is it had just found me a seated arrows dime. It basically told me I should make an offer at the price, but if I liked the natural toning on it to buy it as is but you are paying full retail. It broke down the cost and added like a 135 for the toning alone.
     
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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Could AI advisors be the wave of the future? Maybe, and maybe not. I don’t think I’m quite ready for that yet, but I can see where it could become a useful supplemental tool.
     
  19. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I think of them more as supplemental tool. I like that sometimes it find new coins that I am looking for that I missed. I did this just for fun - I did not ask it to provide me that target list of coins and prices. I have to deal with that stuff as I find coins. So find me coins and I will do the looking and the pricing. Its pricing seems to better that when I first start using it.
     
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  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I am finding AI fun - not only did it find me a coin, tell me the price was high and recommend a bargaining solution. But it also told me my health insurance options suck for 2027. :)
     
  21. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Yeah, I got ChatGPT giving me a few leads every day. I figure only a matter of time until I pull the trigger on one of them.
     

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