First have been in this hobby maybe a month now so tolerate me please. Second it is the first time I have used this microscope/camera, so once again please tolerate my mistakes. I picked up several sealed boxes of nickels from the bank 2 weeks ago and found these. The coin with the nastiest gash was the first ... studied it a bit and tossed it into the returns box figured it just had a hard life; about half a dozen rolls later found the second. Saw the little gash on the nose and it looked familiar. (All the rolls were mixed coinage, no Unc. rolls at all.) So dug through the return box and found the first. The camera I purchased has cross hairs in the middle of the viewing screen so I can line things up if I need too; I lined the smallest of the gashes up with the far part of the eye then projected that to he second gash and they appear to be the same, as the gash across the nose appears to be the same as the gash on the nose of both. Hope that makes sense. Now could it be that by some fluke, I captured a die coming apart? Being that they came from different rolls of mixed coins is this that unusual? I need some expert eyes and opinions please. And if it is a die coming apart, what it be called, certainly not "a gash" ? And if so I guess the chances of this happening again, and how it came about would be one in the national debt.
This is an overlay of your nickel. The thought that this might be a clash isn't possible. The raised area in question is something I haven't seen, but imagine that it is some sort of dropped element. If that's even possible depending on the hammer die. Someone more experienced should be able to help, with a more definitive answer. If it is a die gouge, the area across the nose doesn't seem to have the same placement. I would say no to the same die.
nice, i dont know if its a die clash but if it is , it is a superior clash.. either way it looks cool
I really have o idea at all. It is a deep gash into the coin and not a raised are. if that is any help. Thank you
If it's a gash into the coin, that means it has to be a raised feature on the die, which is a negative of the struck coin. I took the liberty of regularizing your two images for size and orientation, and overlaying one onto the other. In that process, as shown by the red and blue lines, it becomes apparent that the two gouges aren't exactly in the same spot:
I'd have never noticed that as a gouge in the coin. It looked raised to me. http://www.error-ref.com/?s=dropped+element
Well soon as some of the commotion from the grandkids stop will pull them out of the 2x2's that I put them in to not forget where they were and check with my finger nail to make sure. eyes so bad, I didn't want to grab them but by the edges. And thank you so much or the over lay and red lines ..... wish I had those skills; hopefully will earn though.
Someone needs to do a toutorial on how to do overlays. It would be very useful when comparing date placement on half dimes.
It's more than a bit complicated, and tends to be specific to the software being used. I use the Gimp, and if your facility with graphics software is such that the Gimp does not intimidate you, chances are you already know how to do it. In a nutshell: orient each image so that a specific dimension between two points clear on each can be precisely measured. Alter the size of one or both until that dimension is equal between them. Then, select one and create a new layer of it which can be pasted onto the other. Vary the translucency of that layer until the first shows through, altering contrast and perhaps coloration (I did both here) so that the features of each still remain visible.
Wow that overlay thing is waaayyyyy beyond me, as of yet. So now that all are done giggling at the thought of me trying to figure out if it's a low spot or hi spot, which when I tried said to my self "ya sure, my nail is thicker than this thing"; I stand humbled before you. Did take a few more shots with the best agnification I could obtain thus far, (but will be experimenting with the camera) I tend to agree it is a raised area. Lowered the overhead lighting and tried a little side lighting. Maybe will better create a look see maybe not. That is why I am so humbled by the knowledge that is out there. Once again thank you for all the help.
Sorry, to say the "as you say" recessed areas across the nose and eye are exactly that. Very well placed bag marks, Thanks for the great pics! LOL, could be a strike thru though. It certainly looked like it before coffee this morning. Actually, Thanks for taking a honest Pic.
