This flip didn't go well for this person. They paid $20,250 in 2025 and sold it for $11,000+ in 2026

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by FrankNYC, Sep 4, 2026 at 8:02 PM.

  1. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    This makes me wonder what some of the all time biggest losses have been. I seem to recall one of those million $ plus coins selling for a six figure loss. I don’t play in the deep end either and spending more than $500 on a coin gives me the willies. Any amount I lose of if I ever wanted to sell something is just the cost of having fun.
     
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  3. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It's impossible to say if it was a good deal or a bad deal for you. All the Dahlonega coins I have held have done well. Damaged examples can be another matter.
     
  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    This was an 1842-D half eagle in modest grade (PCGS VF30, CAC). Not a coin the big boys would fight over. But straight graded, with the green bean. I liked the orangey toning on it. I paid $2,400 for it (my only four-figure transaction at the time), and only got $2,000 when I sold it. But it put my daughter in her first car, so it was worth it.
     
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  5. FrankNYC

    FrankNYC Active Member

    I've never taken a loss (I would rather hang on to it than take a beating)... but, if you compare the returns to the S and P 500, or even a high yield CD, I'm definitely under. lol
     
  6. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    Does Heritage not allow a seller to set a reserve price? I would rather just hold on to it than take a beating like that. Maybe the seller was desperate or getting extremely old and wanted to liquidate everything?
     
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    I hope that the buyer/seller here was just someone who considers a $9000 loss cheap entertainment.
     
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  8. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    As someone here said, the price at auction IS the value. As far as making profits from GC coins at Heritage Auctions, that depends on the initial buyer and what they were willing to pay.
    I can tell you that about 5 years ago a person or group calling themselves something like the Stephenville group set dozens, if not hundreds of auction high prices at GC. They did the same in Heritage auctions. Then , in less that a 2 year period they sold all those coins. I personally won about 6 coins, at least 2 coins I paid less than 30% of what they had paid. Just for tricks I compared sales on over 175 Seated Coins they dumped. They had an actual profit on 1 coin. They had a few breakevens, but for the most part, the Heritage results were a blood bath. James
     
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  9. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    That depends, and absolutely isn't 100% true. Sometimes things fly under the radar, don't have enough eyes and hands on the buttons to buy. Sometimes it's just the wrong time or venue, or not enough advance notice for buyers to have a clue it's for sale. Marketing does matter, even though I'm technically a numbers guy being an retired CPA and accountant. It's true about everything from real estate to cars to boats to coins.
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    And sometimes, I'd think, the very high price at auction reflects the item's value to exactly two people, the winner and the runner-up, while the rest of "the market" points and laughs.
     
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  11. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    I see this a lot to be honest. I'll see something on auction and only two bidders for big ticket items. I'm sure a lot of the time it's a bogus bidder in collusion with the seller. A strawman bidder, for lack of a better term.
     
  12. FrankNYC

    FrankNYC Active Member

    A lot of times the real winner is the underbidder.
     
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  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    When you are dealer, taking a loss is often the smart thing you do. You get your money out to buy something better.

    When I started my coin dealer business, a veteran dealer told me I should be taking one or two losses a year. Otherwise it was an indicator that you were being too conservative with your purchases.


    That was the way it was with me over 15 years. I took a couple of hits a year.
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Talk about getting reamed out !! i,am not sure why anyone would make that kind of transaction ? unless i was homeless and sleeping on the side walk in the pouring Rain and i just had my last beer :banghead:

    I would have to wonder what the approved value at both aspects of the purchase ?
     
  15. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    This sounds like a tax write off or money laundering scheme.
     

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