World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Ag76, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    And some of the US stuff. I sold my Morgan and Peace dollars and presently do not own any of those except in my giveaway material.

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  3. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . . Supporter

    Perhaps another? Opposite side of the globe of course, and descent of Spanish conquest rather than English.

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  4. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . . Supporter

    A couple millimeters short of a crown.

    Z

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  5. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

  6. That is a lovely Zeeland ducat. The thin white ring around the coin, is it graded or just white background that remain from cropping the image? Kind of looks like the coin is in a PCGS slab.
     
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  7. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    It's in a PCGS slab. That's the gasket that's not cropped out.
     
  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  9. I don't know about "hadta"; more like "wantedta". Hahaha. This particular coin has been on my wish list for quite a while. I wasn't really expecting to win to be honest... my bid was kind of a lowball.
     
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  10. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    1638 Metz taler. Obv: St. Stephen Rev: Metz coat of arms. Amongst the final coinage of Metz before both city and bishopric lost minting rights in Peace of Westphalia at conclusion of Thirty Year War in 1648.
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  11. Good to see you again wcg - has been a while. A very interesting taler - looks rather incredible for a coin that's pushing 400 years old :)

    A couple of new additions to my collection. The double rupie is especially a rather cool coin I've hunted for a good bit.

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  12. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    A couple of new additions:

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    ITALY, Toscana (Grand Duchy). Cosimo II de Medici. 1609-1621. AR Piastro d’argento

    Diamteter: 41mm
    Weight: 31.60 g

    Firenze mint. Dated 1610.

    Obverse: Armored bust right, wearing ruff

    Reverse: St. John standing left, holding long cross and baptizing Jesus standing right in the River Jordan, both wearing nimbus crowns; above, dove flying right, head lowered left. MIR 259/2; Davenport 4190 = KM 4190. Toned, once polished, marks and scratches, edge scratches, mount marks. Near VF.

    From the St. George Collection.

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    ITALY, Lucca. Republic. 1169-1805. AR Scudo Dated 1753.

    Diameter: 39mm
    Weight: 26.01 g

    Obverse: Crowned coat-of-arms with leonine supporters

    Reverse: St. Martin on horseback left, looking back toward beggar standing left. Bellesia 71; MIR 237/13; Davenport 1375; KM 62. Toned, a few faint hairlines, minor flan flaws. EF.

    From the Alexander Christopher Collection.
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Those are great. The Tuscany piastro especially. Love Cosimo’s ruffed collar, there. Imagine having to wear one of those silly things to be fashionable. And here I thought the modern necktie was absurd!
     
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  14. Mister T

    Mister T Active Member

    I don't collect crowns specifically but I got a 1959 Bermuda crown recently - I didn't realise they they ever produced a crown, let alone two, but the 1964 is a little smaller than the expected 38mm.
     
  15. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    Just won this last night & I've been chasing it a long time. This is the Ecuador 8 (actually 9) Reales, 1846. Two ms specimens were auctioned last year at Heritage Auctions (HA). They included this one (ms-63) and the Milennia specimen, a ms-64. I viewed in person & attempted to buy the Millenia coin in LA when it was sold (2008). I bid on this piece (ms-63) last year at HA but didn't win it. For some strange reason, it was reconsigned to HA after just a year. I bid on it again (3rd time) and won it.

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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Wow. It’s neat to see a Capped Bust Liberty Head so nearly identical to the US issues, but in a crown-sized format.

    PS- COINgratulations, @Gallienus! Sometimes good things come to those who wait.
     
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  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    I picked up this Saxony thaler this January, at the FUN show in Orlando, and walked it over to the NGC table to submit it. I had been vigilant about examining the edge for traces of old mount removals, since I prefer straight-graded coins.

    Great- no mount removals. But what I didn’t see coming was this “cleaned” notation that resulted in a “details” grade anyway. Drat.

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    Oh well, I’m keeping it anyway, at least for the time being.

    PS- I would wager that the vast majority of these coins got cleaned at some point over the last four and a half centuries. I figured this one was “market acceptable”. The eye appeal is certainly there.

    Hmph. Oh well. At least the NGC photos came out nice.
     
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  18. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    Thanks @lordmarcovan . Actually that's one reason why I got it [among others]. Technically it is a ms Capped Bust Dollar as designed by John Reich, struck for and circulated (1386 pieces), and Legal Tender in the US until 1857.

    Possible reasons for the design are the increasing counterfeiting of the coins depicting Bolivar (4R's of 1844 & 45) and a proclaimation of 2 Dec., 1845. "That the circulation of all silver coinage of national type is prohibited in the area of this province;"

    Thus the new 8R's with the "Bust of Liberty", instead of the old types with Simon Bolivar, circumvented this. *

    I may want to pick up the rest of a nice Capped Bust denomination set as I love the series.

    * from "A Numismatic History of Ecuador", Michael Anderson, 2001, pp. 97 - 100.
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Now you have me wanting one, though I have a sneaking suspicion I wouldn’t be able to afford one.
     
  20. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Definitely nice eye appeal! :)
     
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