Looks like a duck.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pickin and Grinin, Jul 27, 2026 at 10:16 PM.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Says its a duck. Is this an SMS? or a business strike?
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Looks like a Business strike. I wouldn't know an SMS if it bit me in the behind! :confused:
    Beautiful Toning though.
     
  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I have no idea but I really like the toning.
     
  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I recall seeing more SMS examples with toning than business strikes (but that alone is not enough to make a call). Also the SMS tends to be more prooflike but then toning can make that less evident. One more possible thing to look for are scattered small hits. Business strikes are more likely to have them from being handled less carefully than the SMS examples.

    Making a guess, I would say SMS here ...with some room for doubting my own call :p
     
  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    The striation toning is one for the books, congrats. It's a winner!
     
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Yeah I know... I lean to the rims more than the surfaces, It's a hell of a strike, but the rims are paper thin. The striated planchet, could be a thin clad layer. It has me a little puzzled I will check your comments. Thanks.
     
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  8. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    Does the toning cause those striations or just accent die polish lines? I'm clueless on some of this stuff.
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    There is a roller machine that flattens the planchets to the proper thickness before they are punched from the strips into planchets. If the metal is stretched, or the rollers keep moving but the bed feeding the strip doesn't, It causes striated lines that the mint thought they could strike away. Most always these heavily striated coins cause come wild toning.
    Here is a 2020 Roosevelt.
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    Last edited: Jul 27, 2026 at 11:53 PM
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Ditto
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    These are two different coins. The first looks like the lines are from the rollers from what I think is called a draw press. The second coin has die polish lines. Click on the images for a larger view. Note how the die polish lines stop at the devices.
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    Last edited: Jul 31, 2026 at 9:28 AM
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