second happy one Titus venus

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  1. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    i cannot wait to share my own pictures (waiting for mail )
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    Imperial Age Denar 79-81 AD
    Kwaliteit: Fine patina. VF | Afcortingen
    Catalogus: RIC 16 (R2), Kampmann 22.70.
    Weight: 3.28 g

    Denar 79 AD, Rome. (Very rare do men say). IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M. Head with laurel wreath n. L. // TR P VIIII IMP XIIII COS VII Venus, naked back, standing n. Right, left elbow supported on column, holds helmet and spear. Provenance: From an old private collection. RIC 16 (R2), Kampmann 22.70. 3.28 g.

    The denarii lacking 'P P' at the end of the reverse legend are very rare. Out of the seven possible denarii types struck with that reverse legend I have all but one, the left facing portrait with the Venus reverse you just acquired.
     
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  3. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Wow! Super rare with left facing portrait and a reverse legend lacking 'P P'. It's not often someone posts a Titus denarius variety I do not have - you just did ro! Awesome coin all around.
     
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  4. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    thanks for the information:happy: i like your coins to
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Oooh, great coin!
     
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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    If that coin was recently up for auction I somehow missed it and would've paid big bucks to acquire it! However, I'm glad the piece went to a deserving home to a collector who will appreciate it.
     
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  7. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    thats great to hear thanks

    o yes what those means reverse legend lacking 'P P'

    those that means P.P is missing
     
  8. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    indeed the vendor has make a big mistake it sells for a to low on price
     
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  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    The denarii lacking 'P P' at the end of the reverse legend are very rare. Out of the seven possible denarii types struck with that reverse legend I have all but one, the left facing portrait with the Venus reverse you just acquired.
     
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  10. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    i found perfect example

    369, Lot: 473. Estimate $150.
    Sold for $1000. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee.


    Titus. AD 79-81. AR Denarius (17mm, 3.45 g, 6h). Rome mint. Struck AD 79. Laureate head left / Venus, seen from behind, standing right, leaning upon column to left and holding transverse spear and helmet. RIC II 16; RSC 268a var. (obv. legend). Good VF, a few light marks. Rare.
     
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  11. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    thanks can i use your information by my coin
     
  12. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Not necessarily. Probably me and a handful of other Flavian specialist would go nuts over it. Most folks would just see another Titus/Venus and move on.
     
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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Ah, now you're rubbing salt in the wound. That's a specimen I was out bid on. Afterwards, I vowed it wouldn't happen a second time.
     
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  14. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

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  15. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Sorry
     
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  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I have one that's similar. You gotta admit Juli Titi looks like her dad. Or the celators made her look like her dad.

    Julia Titi VENVS AVGUST denarius.jpg
     
  17. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Cool excellent patina
     
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  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Super pick-up @ro1974!

    I've been after the Venus reverse when I browse on-going auctions but I missed that one entirely....hopefully, the uniqueness of it would've become apparent to me---eventually LOL

    And you have the D. H. seal of approval. Congrats!
     
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  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ditto to what everyone else has said about your coin. Excellent!
     
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  20. alde

    alde Always Learning

    That's a great find. I would not have known enough to pay a whole lot of attention to that extra detail. It makes such a huge difference in the rarity too. It's all a learning process. One question though that maybe David can answer. Is this an omission by the die engraver? Should it have had the PP for that type. I'm still trying to figure out how to use RIC. I haven't had much time lately to crack the books.
     
  21. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Titus hadn't yet been awarded the title Pater Patriae (P P) by the Senate when the issue was struck. A very early issue to be sure!
     
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