Now, I'm not one to play the crack-out-and-resubmit game, but as well as CACG did for me on other submissions, I was not happy with this one. It's my first coin that I'm actually going forward with breaking free from captivity solely to resubmit. Here's one of a handful of coins going in, but the only one [hopefully] destined for an upgrade. 1883 V Nickel with cents. I feel that CACG did me dirty on this coin, grading it as a MS61. I'm not entirely sure still, but I'm leaning towards submitting this as a proof coin, JD-1 variety. From what I've seen so far, the doubling inside the bottom loop of the 3 is a pup for this variety. And there's clear die polishing lines that go underneath the devices, as well as highly reflective fields. I'm just crossing my fingers that I didn't goof by cutting this out. Typically, whenever I free a coin from a holder, it's specifically for my 7070. At least if it comes back body-bagged, I'll have an upgrade coin for my type set. But this time is different... I want to get more eyes on this, and see what the next TPG says. Wish me luck!
Always an interesting experiment but best case scenario I don't believe it will upgrade enough to make up for the grading fees. What do you feel is best case scenario? Would have to jump to a 64 to gain $100 of value. Luster plays a role. 12 to 6 o'clock fields are too busy to be much over low MS IMHO. This ones mine in my type set. NGC gave it a 64.
I submitted it to CACG as a proof but didn't know anything about the JD-1 variety. After a bit of Google searches, I saw that the variety mentioned (JD-1, for a proof coin) has slight doubling inside 3. Mine has this trait, and incredibly reflective fields. If it's truly a business strike, it's the nicest I've ever seen. So, to answer your question, my goal is to submit for grading as a proof, but with being able to mention why I believe it is, too. If I'm wrong, then so be it, and I'll either leave it as-is, sell it, or cut it out for my 7070. But I still have a few days before I ship, so it's not set in stone yet... aside from it being raw now, that is.
I knew they were strict before joining, but I didn't think they'd be so harsh lol! Giving that a 61 when it looks how it does just seemed like a slap to the face kinda
Isn't there an option to do a crossover with a minimum grade and/or designation you request, if not, they just return it as is and just charge you a grading fee? Oops! I totally get it if you don't want built in bias of a previously graded coin however.
This was my thought as well. Unless you've got a pretty low monetary investment in the coin to give you room to play the crackout game, I don't see enough upside potential there. I do agree that CACG was a little bit harsh on it, but only by one point or so. Looks 62-ish to my eye, personally. BUT, it could be I'm just distracted by the die polish lines.
Like with currency a 60-62 grade is certain death ! i would much rather have an AU 55 or 58 just way more attractive, but i just happen to have a 61 coin which i will share later and you can compare with yours.
He believes it has the diagnostics for a proof. I would include a note about these with multiple asterisks if sending it to PCGS.
Yes, this exactly is my real reason for resubmitting it. The coin itself doesn't really have the typical cartwheel luster, and the fields on both sides are quite reflective. But finding the doubling inside the 3 is what's really making me send it back out. There will certainly be some notations on the form, as well as the flip, regarding the pickups. I had originally submitted to CACG as a proof coin but couldn't list any details as to why I thought it was one. Now, though, I've got some information to send in with it at least. Worst case scenario, I'm wrong and they bodybag it with a details label. Best case, I'm right and it gets attributed as a proof. Either way, I'm still happy with the coin itself. I just wanted to get rid of that 61 label and try my luck. Still have yet to send it out, so please feel free to chime in and share your thoughts. I sincerely appreciate all the comments so far!
How hard was it to crack that slab? I've heard those CACG holders are really difficult to break open. Please keep us posted!
