1853 Quarter. No arrows? Recut date?

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  1. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    IMG_1095.jpeg I've been going through some of my late father's coins. Tons of junk silver, with some other interesting things mixed in here and there.
    What exactly do I have here? IMG_1096.jpeg
     
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  3. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    Looks like an 1858 with a damaged or possibly altered last digit. Look at the "5" in these pictures (from PCGS).

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  4. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Interesting. Good observation. I don't have a great eye for this sort of thing. But zooming in on my example, I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that last digit may have been tampered with.
     
  5. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I agree that it looks most like an altered 1858. But weighing it will definitively tell the tale. A genuine 1853 No Arrows will weigh 6.68 grams. Anything after that, including the 1853 Arrows, will weigh 6.22 grams.

    Of course there is the Black Swan possibility: A completely new and unknown die variety. Vanishingly small possibility, though.
     
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  6. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Well, here' the verdict on the weight. Checked on 2 different scales to confirm accuracy. IMG_1098.jpeg
     
  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If it is a real 1853 no arrows, only 44,000 minted, survival rate must be very small, and in G-04 it's $1500. (As per USA Coin Book)
    1853-P Recut Date - No Arrows or Rays 44,200 1,534
     
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  8. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Accounting for wear, I think 5.72 grams is within a reasonable range for a coin that started out at 6.22. The 6.68 gram starting weight of a genuine no arrows would be pushing it. This is probably not the real deal. But here's my attempt at a closer up shot of the date anyway.
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  9. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Recut 58
     
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