Bad experiences with dealers

I tend to be a good buy , and I have had my shares of UPI strike against my account , but this has nothing to do with UPI strike... This has to do with a dealer ,Language : cause I tend to bid on best offer items at about 3/5 value and try to meet At about 4/5 buy... The dealer block me cause I do this he feels he looses out but I'm like then what's the use of putting a best offer.. it shows your willingness to come down on a price..




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It doesn't mean that you should block the better instantaneous bidding on all your other items

 

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Well, if I were to put an item up at $X BIN, I might find $0.6X to be an insulting offer. Keep in mind that the seller has to pay fees , too, so $0.6X looks more like $0.5X after eBay and PayPal get done sticking their fingers in the jar.

I generally don't offer less than 4/5 BIN to start. If I feel that's not a fair price, I just shrug and go to the next listing, because we're too far apart.

 

If the BIN price is that far out of line to the high side to begin with, the seller either doesn't know what he's doing or made a bad purchase himself that he's trying to get out from under. I just move on.

If it's not, then maybe you should reevaluate how you offer, IMHO.

 

Personally, I tend to come very close to my best pricing aside any "offers." Even if I'm allowing offers, I will dismiss anything under 80% out of hand. If I thought the coin was only worth 60% of what I'm asking, I'd lower the original price 25%. Good retailing is not about big margin scores, it's about churning the inventory.

 

If you put best offfer that negotiable on the price in consideration of you bin price if I offer 60% of you bin I expect you to come back at me with a reasonable retort . Language Again, eBay and PayPal fees come out of the dealer's pocket.. Honestly as some one whom has sold items on eBay if I list something 50 $ bin and set it at 50 to sell that's game over. But if I put best offer unless you set a minimum b/o bid you open yourself for what ever offers get thrown on the table

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"Best offer" in my book does not constitute an offer that I know the seller is going to reject out of hand.

 

If that was the case I would not have a Ms 62 Fugio cinq 4. If your willing to entertain a bargain that doesn't mean you except what he necessarily presents it just means that is going to make an offer he expect you to come back with something reasonable to his offer

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Let's say Santini that you are selling an item for $100 and I customarily bid $75 the item it's not a bad price the exceptional it is a reasonable price if I put in the offer comment please retort 8 offer. Then I expect an offer to come back not to be permanently blocked from buying from you

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I don't know if I'd block someone who said "please retort 8 offer", but I'd certainly be puzzled.

I don't think reading this thread would cause that seller to second-guess his decision.

 

I honestly don't think it matters... Language

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Most sellers would say the 60% wasn't reasonable in the first place. Most eBay sellers are going to block someone that is offering 60% on a lot of their listings fishing for a deal. Aside from just being annoying to the seller it presents the buyer as a potential problem that is going to be more trouble than they are worth

 

I don't dicker like that, and my attitude towards it is probably more common than you seem to think. I wouldn't go to the length of offending you, or blocking you, but I would explain that I do not allow so much margin in my asking prices to entertain lowball offers.

 

If I put back in the commentary I'd like to come to reasonable offers on this item .. that means I'm offering you 60-70% I'm willing to spend a little more but not much

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That is understandable

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Perhaps he's heard about what you've done to other sellers? You know, like the perfectly decent guy who had his feedback destroyed by you over something that was entirely you own fault? Remember this, Leeroy? Remember how you bid on something you didn't have the money to pay for, yet felt no need to notify the seller of this little fact before bidding or even after winning? Remember how you thought it fine not to pay for three weeks or maybe it was a month, and expected the seller to simply accommodate your selfish little whims? And what did this seller get for trying to reasonably deal with you? Oh, that's right... not one but two negatives, the first for the win you couldn't even pay for, and the second because he refused to allow you to benefit from playing games.

So please, Leeroy; tell us how fair and reasonable you are.

 

So your saying there is a seller communication board I doubt that... If eBay & PayPal side with the buyer due to a lost or stolen irreplaceably package due to the dealer wanting to cut corners by not sending high valued items signiture confirmation or whatever it cause them to side with the buyer for... It's not the buyers fault.. and also just as dealers are people so are buyers and we all run into hiccups and problems that set us back..

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Yes sellers regularly communicate problem buyers to each other through various means. Blocking a a problem buyer is by far the best form of protection available to eBay sellers

 

Tons of sellers list things way overpriced and then get offended at reasonable offers, outright reject with no counter, ignore the offer or in extreme cases block you. I personally don't care, if I see a BIN what it starts at I will make my offer. It costs me nothing to make an offer and I don't care if a seller finds it insulting. To me it comes down too do they want to make a sale or not. In many cases I've gotten very good deals because I'm not afraid of offending someone by making a reasonable offer even on overpriced goods. Really it's just business personal feelings have no place in it imo.

 

No, Leeroy... this is what I'm talking about:

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/bad-sellers-on-ebay.249538/

What does this have to do with, well, anything?

 

I would have to say that if that is routine for you, you have some unrealistic expectations of what you can get coins for.