Low Cost Nabataeans

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  1. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

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    Post Nabataeans or other coins that cost you less than $10
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    If you're interested in Nabataeans, I'm the local expert, not that I'm such an expert. Check out my website, although I haven't had a chance to work on it for some time. I do have a bunch of new research ready to go - just haven't had the time to upload it...

    http://www.nabataeannumismatics.com/
     
  4. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Awesome website! Thanks, John! Yes, I'm planning to expand my Nabataean collection.
     
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  5. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    kool John:)
     
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    With apologies, I'm going to do the opposite of your request and post two of my most expensive Nabataeans, a drachm of Aretas IV with queen Huldu, and a drachm of Rabbel II with queen Gamilat. Nabataean drachms are exceedingly difficult to find in better grades. Most of them were melted or restruck when Trajan appropriated the Nabataean Kingdom as Provincia Arabia.

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  7. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Only got a couple

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  8. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    here is one of my favorites(cost and worth more than $10 tho) a Trajan silver drachm that was struck over a Nabataean drachm. thanks to John Anthony (next owner)for attribution:) trajan denari  arabian and victory reverses 001.JPG trajan denari  arabian and victory reverses 003.JPG
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Now THAT is really cool! Pulls that history TOGETHER! I like that Drachm a lot.

    Sorry @Deacon Ray , once again, I regret to announce that I have nary a Nabataean!
     
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  10. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    it does that, big A. this was already one of my favorite coins, now i tell it goodnite when i go to sleep:)
     
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  11. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coins! The Athena coin is marvelous!
     
  12. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Marvelous! Don't apologize.
     
  13. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Great coin! I would never have known it was double struck unless an expert were to tell me. You guys are amazing!
     
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  14. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    me too and neither D Ray><
     
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  15. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I have three Nabateans, a drachm and two AE coins. I'd appreciate if @John Anthony would drop in and verify I've attributed them properly.

    Malichus II and Shaquilath II drachm.jpg
    Malichus II, AD 40-70, and Shaquilath II, his wife and sister
    AR Drachm
    Nabatea, Petra
    3.92 g; 12.2 mm
    Obv: Laureate bust of Malichus II, right; inscriptions on right and left.
    Rev: Draped and veiled bust of Shaquilath, right; inscriptions on right and left
    Refs: Meshorer 124; SGI 5702; BMC 28.11,1; Forrer 213.

    Aretas IV and Shaquilath I.jpg
    Aretas IV, Philopater, 9 BC - AD 40, and wife Shaquilath I
    AE 17
    Nabatea, Petra
    4.30 g; 17.5 mm
    Obv: Jugate busts of Aretas and Shaquilath to right
    Rev: Two cornuacopiae, crossed; between them Aramaic legend, "Aretas, Shaquilath" in three lines
    Refs: Meshorer 114; SGI 5699; BMC 28.9,23; Forrer 212.

    Rabbel II and Gamilath.jpg
    Rabbel II, AD 71-106, and Gamilath, his wife and sister
    AE 15
    Nabatea, Petra
    3.10 g; 15.1 mm
    Obv: Jugate busts of Rabbel and Gamilath to right
    Rev: Two cornuacopiae, crossed; between them Aramaic legend, "Rabbel, Gamilath" in two lines
    Refs: Meshorer 163; SGI 5706; BMC 28.13,3; Forrer 168.
     
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  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Looks good to me, except the drachm could also be Aretas IV and Shaqilat I. Since Malichus II was the son of Aretas IV, their adult portraits look very similar, and if the coins are worn to the point that the text is missing, it becomes difficult to distinguish the two.

    Incidentally, there were two Shaqilats that appeared on the coinage of three kings. Aretas IV + Shaqilat I, then Malichus also married a woman named Shaqilat, so she is Shaqilat II, and when Malichus died, she ruled as regent for her son Rabbell II and appears on his coinage for the first few years of his reign.

    Also, the term "sister" may not have been used literally in the context of Nabataean royalty - it may have been just an honorific, sort of like the term brotherhood or sisterhood among non-biologically related but sympathetic persons. But on the other hand, royalty did sometimes marry their kin, so it's not really certain what's going on when the term "sister" is used.
     
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  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much!
     
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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    D-Ray => nice OP-Nabeatoners

    :rolleyes:

    I only have a couple of humble examples to toss into your cool thread ...

    Nabataean, Aretas IV & Shuqailat
    9 BC - 40 AD

    Nabataean Aretas IV.jpg


    Nabobateanen Kingdom, Rabbel II & Gamilat

    70-106 AD

    Nabobateanen Rabbel II.jpg

    ... the 2nd example is a sweet Secret Santa gift from Z-Bro

    :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    What a great gift!
     
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  20. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    As always, super awesome coins!

    Here is a Nabataean coin I was recently gifted. I like it a lot! :D

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    Erin
     
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  21. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Sweet posts!!!
     
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