Guess the toning premium

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Mar 24, 2026 at 8:44 PM.

  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Let's play guess the toning premium. What do you thing this brought recently at auction? And no cheating :D (we are also not looking at the earlier sale from several years ago although that can be discussed after the reveal).

    This coin has a PCGS guide value of $100. And a generic MS 63 (no toning) sells in the $85-$95 range on average per eBay.

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  3. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Reverse toning very pretty, love those purples! Obverse is nothing special, even a bit of a negative. I think collectors prefer pretty toning to be on obverse, but that is just my gut feeling.

    I am thinking $350.

    Can't wait to be wrong by a factor of 5x. :eek:
     
  4. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    I think that reverse brought on the bidding and hammer was $475.

    I’m waiting to see how much more wrong I am than @geekpryde .

    Edit to add that I think this is a fantastic coin.
     
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  5. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . . Supporter

    $650 + $100 base coin = $750 says the Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . .

    Z
     
  6. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    At an auction outside of GreatCollections? About $500.

    At a GC auction, about $800.
     
  7. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm going to say it's worth $50-100 extra for the toning.

    And that's probably one reason I've never won a coin toned like that.
     
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  9. Eric Babula

    Eric Babula Well-Known Member

    Incredible reverse toning! Too bad it wasn't on the obverse. I agree with @geekpryde that the obverse toning is a bit of a negative, for me, at least. I'm going to go with a sale price of $550.
     
  10. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    $600?

    Green is generally a more valuable color, correct?
     
  11. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Not in Kansas anymore

    People will pay silly money for pretty colors, but I think they still want it on better coins so I would only do $150 for the premium.

    However, you probably wouldn't be posting here unless it was ridiculous so it will probably be more like $500.
     
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    You are correct that green is more valuable for toners.
     
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  13. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Any other guesses? I will let it run until tomorrow.
     
  14. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . . Supporter

    Oh hail, I'll double down on my guesstimate above .

    Let's call it $1,500 . . .

    Z
     
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  15. atcarroll

    atcarroll Supporter! Supporter

    Somebody paid $900 for it, i bet.
     
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  16. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Toning is just the early stages of tarnish so I don't understand why there is a premium at all.
     
  17. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    Because many people (including myself) think it looks pretty. And most people are willing to pay more for a better-looking coin.
     
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  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    And the winner is @ZoidMeister with his second guess.

    This toner brought an impressive $1,968.75 at GC! That is almost 20x the "guide" value.
    It previously sold for $940 in 2021 in a Legend auction.

    I liked this one as the colors are quite vibrant and it has the desirable greens. However, there is a small break in the toning to the left of the star, it is slabbed the wrong way (one can request reverse toners to be slabbed reverse facing forward), and the color is on the reverse (which I don't mind but that does lead to a lower value compared to obverse toners).

    As you can see, I bid $800 (before fees), which is a considerable amount for me (I like to be under that for most of my coins); still I was blown out of the water by the other bidders. To me it was around a $1k-$1.2k coin so I was surprised by the final result but not shocked (as I have seen some incredible results for toners, especially at GC).

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  19. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    I understand that they're beautiful, for now.
     
  20. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    A coin kept in a reasonably inert environment (such as a slab or other sealed holder) will take a long time to change, I should think.
     
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  21. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    Good gravy!
     
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