Some comentary for those who think that PCGS is aways better than NGC

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by johnmilton, Mar 22, 2026 at 9:41 AM.

  1. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I have been building an early 20th century date set of quarter eagles. I have long found these dime sized coins to be more attractive than their $5 and $10 sisters. Since I had a set of the Indian quarter eagles, I decided it would be fun to complete the 20th century set from 1900 to 1929.

    I already had a few dates, 1900, 1905 and 1907. I went to the last Winter FUN show looking for the other dates. I found them all except the 1902. I looked at an MS-67 graded piece really hard but finally rejected it because it had a rather nasty "hiden" bag mark on Ms. Liberty's nose. I decided that a coin graded MS-67 should not have that.

    I bought a 1902 $2.50 in PCGS MS-65 in an on-line auction. When I received the piece, I was disappointed. The luster was not as good as I though it was from the photo, and it it's share of marks and then some for the grade. Here is the coin.

    1902 250 All.jpg

    Here is a 1901 $2.50 in NGC MS-65. The luster is much better.

    1901 Quarter Eagle All.jpg

    And to set the standard for those who are very impressed with CAC, here is a 1904 in PCGS MS-65, CAC.

    1904 Quarter Eagle All.jpg

    And rounding this out, this 1907 is graded NGC MS-67.

    1907 Quarter Eagle All 1.jpg

    My photography has a tendancy to make some marks look bigger than than they appear in person. This 1907 $2.50 has honey colored surfaces and is totally original. It's never been dipped or fooled with.

    What do you think of the grading and these coins?
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    In this case I think that the NGC-graded 1907 has it all over the other coins in the post for surface quality, but 1907 is far and away the nicest and most common quarter eagle in high grade. I can't be so sure how I feel about the originality of the coin, as it looks a bit more yellow than the others, but that may just be the photograph.
     
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  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If the 1907 has been fooled with, I'm a buyer for a jug of that of dip.

    What do you think of this one? It's only graded MS-63 in an OGL holder, and for good reason because of some marks. The luster is strong.

    1905 250 All.jpg

    This one, which I bought over 60 years ago, got an MS-62 grade over 25 years ago. It has hardly a mark on it, but the luster is more muted.

    1900 Quarter Eagle All.jpg
     
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'll take your word for it that the color of 1907 is nice.

    As for the 1905, yeah, the luster looks really good. The face looks a little "busy", but those marks do not look deep enough to further penalize the coin than MS63 . . . it might even be a candidate for MS64, but hardly worth resubmitting, given the modest increase in value.
     
  6. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Submitting a common date gold coin for an upgrade from MS-63 to 64 is not worth it these days.
     
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    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

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