An interesting early uncia variety

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  1. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    The post man delivered a coin that I've been waiting a little over a month for today, and I'm excited to finally be able to share it. This is a post-semilibral(Crawford 41) uncia, not a terribly rare coin but an interesting single-denomination single-die variety with a pair of dolphins at the keel instead of the line pattern, waves or empty space that are normally seen on the keel of the galley on the reverse of these types. Except for the dolphins, the style and details of this type are entirely consistent with other unciae of the series so it doesn't seem that this type was minted at another mint or anything like that and I think it was probably just a little stylistic flourish added by the engraver.

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    Roman republic Æ Uncia(7.81g, 22mm, 3h), anonymous "post-semilibral" series. 215-212 BC. Head of Roma right, wearing attic helmet; to left, • / Prow right; above, ROMA; below, •. Crawford 41/10; McCabe Group A1(Cf. A1.un.1, these dies)
    Ex Thersites Collection

    Please share any similar interesting varieties you may have! Dolphins work too!
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    What a great find! Fantastic. I really like the Dolphins. Usually the Unciae are pretty "bland", but that feature is pretty cool.

    I have these Unciae from this approx time period (only a couple years difference!) Yeah, during that NASTY Hannibal War period!

    This may need to be dipped in @YOC 's or @Pishpash doo-dah sauce!
    RR Anon AE Uncia 217-215 BC Roma Attic Prow Cr 38-6 S 615 O-R.jpg
    RR Anon AE Uncia 217-215 BC Roma Attic Prow Crawford 38/6 Sear 615


    Shame on these guys, they sided with Hannibal, then had most of their coinage destroyed after the War!
    Campania CAPUA AE Uncia 216-211 Diana Boar Hannibal capital Italia.JPG
    Campania CAPUA AE Uncia 216-211 Diana Boar Hannibal capital Italia


    Amazing - Still casting Aes Grave around this time!
    Luceria AES Grave Anonymous 217-215 BCE Uncia 7-35g Frog-Corn Ear pellet retrograd L T-V 285.jpg
    Luceria AES Grave Anonymous 217-215 BCE Uncia 7.35g Frog-Corn Ear pellet retrograde L Thurlow-Vecchi 285
     
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  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Very nice coin red_spork, and added bonus of dolphins on keel, they are a nice coin for a lower denomination I have the Uncia a few years earlier, the main difference is Roma looking left. AE Uncia 217-215 BC, 24mm, 11.8gm, Crawford 38/6. 413.jpeg
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's a great uncia @red_spork. Alas, I am uncia-less. :(
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    tradeya my Gorgeous Greenie for your Bland-Brown... :D
     
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  7. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the generous offer, but I have become attached to it.
     
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  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Fantastic variety!

    I hate to say it but wit some of the results I've seen here...I think that might be a good idea. Of course only if they thought it was wise and agreed.
     
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  9. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    @red_spork incredible coin. Over the last 18 months I've seen you go from a modest collection of RR coins to the expert on RR coins in this forum. Incredible, man. Next time I'm in the market for obscure issues from that period I'll shoot you a PM.
     
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  10. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Thanks, Sallent. I dunno if I'm quite an expert just yet but I certainly don't mind helping fellow cointalkers find cool coins.
     
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, red_spork => that's an OP-stunner!! (congrats)

    I have a bunch of AE RR coins, but I don't think I have any one uncia examples ...

    Ummm, how 'bout a couple of Greek examples? (is that cheating?)


    Sicily Selinos.jpg Sicily Akragas.jpg

    ... above are two AE cast one uncia examples ...

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Congrats again on that great new AE RR addition
     
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful posts!!

    This is not so early, no dolphins and it's an Ae AS but I think it's kinda cool and interesting (not to mention a cheap snack)---and it has PROWS:D

    I liked the three prows and the 'bobbing heads' seemingly in the water facing each other ahead of the ships...."I told you Marcus, we should have taken the ox-cart on dry land. To hades with the expense" ;)

    Actually it's a Janus type and the 'bobbing heads' are apparently the caps of the dioscuri.:p

    s-l500.jpg s-l500.jpg

    Roman C Vibius Cf Pansa 90 BC ae AS Coin JANUS & 3 PROWS
    Obverse : Bearded bust of Janus
    Reverse : 3 Prows right
    Grade: Fine
    Provenance :
    Weight : 10.2 Grams
    Width : 27 Millimeters
    Patina/Toning: Medium Clay brown
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    it's a nice lookin' coin RS! republican coins are one of the weak spots in my collection. i actually bid on a galley/roma uncia recently bust lost.
     
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