1807/6 Large 7 S-273 Large Cent

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  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    In a moment of sheer stupidity, I bought this this morning. I think I might make a little money flipping it at the coin show this weekend, but I would be happy to break even.

    What are your thoughts?

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  3. motrenrut

    motrenrut Junior Member

    That's a 'beaut.
     
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  4. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm seeing what I believe a rather dark coin having been deliberately overexposed to bring out the detail, and as a result I'm guessing those much "brighter" areas won't be nearly as important in-hand. An early die state, showing what looks to me like a remarkably intact planchet, especially on the obverse. The obvious damage about the reverse rim is balanced by a dearth of circulation-related nicks and marks anywhere else, and it's a pretty strong VF on technical merit alone. EAC F12 maybe?

    If I'm correct about the look of the coin, although it should probably be in a Details slab due to the reverse rim, it should also probably sell close to the price of one which isn't. I would absolutely have this one on the short list if I were looking for something similar.
     
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  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Lot of detail. VF30 or 35 to me. But dug out of the ground and cleaned.
     
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  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Depends on what you spent, really.
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I would put it at VF-35 details. The reverse rims just does it in to me. No clue as to what price it might bring.
     
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  8. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Very nice Large Cent!
     
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  9. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    lots of detail left. vf I would say but looks to have some porosity to surfaces. Net F or so?
     
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  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    $250. I did not notice the rim damage on the right reverse until after I had submitted my offer. Unfortunately, it was the highest of the three offers at the time.
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    What is?
     
  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Common variety with granularity, some damage but VF detail. It all depends on whether you find someone who will pay for detail and overlook the damage. I tend to go for detail, but at a significant discount, not nearly full price or only a trivial discount. I'd probably go as high as $150, but prefer under $100.

    Fortunately, this market doesn't mind paying full price for detail coins in some cases. Particularly if slabbed. I lose a lot of coins like this.
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    And, as an added insult, eBay surprises me this morning with a 10% eBay Bucks promotion, a day AFTER I had paid.
     
  15. chip

    chip Novice collector

    very clear overdate, let us know how it looks in hnd once you receive it
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    We both know it is worth more than that, but I feel the same about many other US issues. I will not pay more that $1000 for a P-01 1796 half dollar to keep for my collection. It is not worth it to me, especially since I can get a nice AU 1796 Dollar for the same price as a P-01 half.
     
  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Like you say, some people will pay more than me. I expect a significant discount for damage and others will settle for a minor discount.

    All you need is a willing buyer and a willing seller for a sale. But market value requires turnover within a reasonable time frame.

    I know some dealers who will never sell at a loss and they wind up with a lot of stock that can't be moved. Sometimes you buy right and other times you don't.

    Good luck.

    If you purchased at an auction with limit bids where the second highest bidder sets the price, at least you know someone else is willing to come close to your winning bid.
     
  18. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I was pleasantly surprised. It looks a lot better in hand. The surfaces do have a micro porosity, but it is hardly noticable without a loop. The fields are smooth to the touch. If I could afford to, I'd keep her.

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  19. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    The photos certainly make the surfaces look nicer which would result in a lower discount. The original photos may have turned up the contrast too much. I still don't think I'd go quite as high as you did, but we're closer. It's certainly Die State III or maybe early IV, but the die beak in Breen isn't the same as the one I can ALMOST see on yours so I'd stick to III.

    Excellent photography by the way.

    ps My breaking point between VF and XF is the hairline at the forehead. That's why I'd go with VF 30 details rather than XF 40 details.
     
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  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    authenticity
     
  21. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    It got returned.
     
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