What happened to this 1851 1c?

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  1. motrenrut

    motrenrut Junior Member

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  3. motrenrut

    motrenrut Junior Member

    Here's the reverse of the 1851 1c
     

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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    My first guess is that it was subjected to environmental damage. After 165 years or so, I guess anything is possible.

    Chris
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's not possible to know what has happened to the coin. It's just damaged.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Looks as if someone painted it red
     
  7. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Sure looks like it went through some sort of super heating, probably a fire.
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    metal detecting coin
     
  9. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    As stated already. Recovered from the soil, possibly red clay?
     
  10. motrenrut

    motrenrut Junior Member

    The coin has been in my family for 150 years or so, here's the reverse. 1851 1c (fire) 001.jpg
     
  11. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Sentimental reasons for saving it, I guess. Surely not because it was worth something to collectors.

    Looks more like damage from a fire than from being buried.
    Lance.
     
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  12. motrenrut

    motrenrut Junior Member

    I just found it, in among the hundreds of coins left to me.
     
  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Definitely looks like a fire coin due to the color and black scale, so I think you're right. Many types of environmental damage leave pitting as well discoloration and I don't see any here.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    It is damaged; yet there are a large number of experienced numismatists/dealers/collectors who have seen enough coins to be able to tell what caused this type of damage.

    I'm not one of them; however, IMO only two things for sure, that coin was NOT in the ground and it is corroded. :p
     
  15. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    While metal detecting in the cellar hole of a house that burned many years ago, I found one with similar characteristics, leading me to think that the op made a reasonable observation of fire damage.
     
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  16. Fjpod

    Fjpod Active Member

    I suspect the coin was stuck in a saltwater fish/reef tank, or was in salt water where red coralline algae grows. The red scaley color reminds me of it. My previous hobby was a saltwater fish and coral. I had a reef tank and this red/pink coral grew all over the place.
     
  17. Fjpod

    Fjpod Active Member

    coral.jpg
    Here's an image I found. On flat surfaces as the side of a tank, it grows somewhat flat and can form scales much like what is on the face of liberty. When the object is removed from the reef environment, it will eventually flake off and loses some color, but it can stubbornly persist.
     
  18. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    It is a very good possible explanation.
     
  19. Fjpod

    Fjpod Active Member

    coralline 2.jpg
    an example on a flat surface
     
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