How is this possible?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by 71Avalon, Feb 21, 2026 at 12:15 PM.

  1. 71Avalon

    71Avalon Well-Known Member

    It's on Great Collections right now. 2017 is a year that is nowhere near the last time they made cents out of copper, which I believe was 2009.

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A copper blank probably got stuck in the machine and finally broke free and was minted years later.
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    FYI…1982 was the transition year from copper to copper plated zinc cents.
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    But in 2009 there were cents struck in bronze as a commemoration of Lincoln's 200th birthday (and the Lincoln cent's 100th).
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes but not for circulation as I recall.
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    I did not know (until now) that the 2009 commemorative Lincoln cents were struck in bronze and were not Zincolns. There are a great many gaps (fancy word: lacunae) in my knowledge about moderns.
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Regarding the coin in the OP: what about foreign coins? Does the US Mint still strike 1-centavo pieces under contract for Panama, or is that denomination a thing of the past? (Too lazy to look it up right now.)
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thats not even the correct composition. It should be 95% copper and 5% zinc.
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Hmm. Which makes me wonder even more about foreign planchets.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Did they quote the copper coating percentage?
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Hmm. I assume the composition on the label is from XRF. I wonder if XRF gives inaccurate readings on bronze because the copper would block the fluorescence from the zinc... no, I don't think that makes sense. If PCGS found they were consistently getting <1% zinc readings on coins that were supposed to be 5% zinc, surely they'd do something about it.
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    There shouldn't be a copper coating on a bronze planchet.
     
  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Not all the 2009s are copper. Most of them are zinc.
    There were some that are 3.1g and should have a more matte finish.
     
  15. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    This coin was reported to be significantly overweight (2.97 grams, as I recall). That creates the possibility that this cent was struck on a zinc planchet with an excessively thick layer of copper plating. I have such an example that weighs 2.9 grams. It's possible that the XRF device wasn't able to penetrate very far into the copper plating, generating a reading that is mostly copper. This coin would have benefitted from a specific gravity test or even a crude "ring" test.
     
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  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That seems more plausible.

    That's one downside of the increasing availability of XRF - people tend to take it as gospel, even in cases where it's not necessarily reliable.

    Quick Googling indicates that XRF can see maybe 0.1mm into copper. Surface area of a cent would be around 6 cm^2, so 600mm^2, times 0.1mm coating thickness would make 60 mm^3 of copper, or 0.06cm^3, which would weigh... a bit over half a gram. Which is awfully close to the excess weight for this coin!
     
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  17. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    There are other non-invasive ways to test metal content, such as electrical resistance. Surely PCGS would have been aware of this and tested it with more than XRF and scale. But assuming it is actually copper, I would suggest mint employee shenanigans rather than an odd foreign planchet accidently getting loose in the machinery.
     
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  18. 71Avalon

    71Avalon Well-Known Member

    The mint made some, but I don't think they were meant for circulation. The circulation ones were made of the same copper-plated zinc, though I did find one in circulation a while back.
     
  19. 71Avalon

    71Avalon Well-Known Member

    I did a Google search today that if there were any coins anywhere with that composition and it came up zero.
     
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  20. The U.S. Mint has not produced foreign coins for decades.

    I doubt that PCGS only relied on XRF to determine the composition.

    To date, this is the only certified example of a 2017 Lincoln Cent wth a composition of 99% copper.

    No, I am not the consignor.
     
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  21. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Actually, I mis-typed the weight. I think the reported weight was 2.87 grams.
     
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