Cool find!! 1959D Wheat Cent....

WoW guys! Saw this on another forum. The guy is having it looked at by real professionals. I wished him good luck...
What are your thoughts and what can you say to someone that it just isn't so? He says there are no seams to speak of. So? How do the people who made this do it? "Names have been changed to protect the innocent."
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I thought a couple of those turned up a few years ago, and were eventually determined to be recent fakes...?

 

To speak of? Quite a hedge there, considering.

I'm getting the feeling this is a laser etched die. While the strange crosshatch in the wheat could be an artifact of the image, it's seen nowhere else in the photo and I don't see it on the obverse. There's also the odd pimple in the left one.

 

Very interesting. Where do you think it was made? Out of the U.S?

 

Just not worth a lot of money even if it is the real deal.

 

Are there any known strikes that year with the wheat reverse?

 

Supposedly just one....1959-D Lincoln Mule Penny Error: Its History & Value | U.S. Coins Guide

 

Yeah. This thread had me interested, so I researched. I am not a cents guy, always wondered what mule coin was. Maybe it was a prank by a mint employee? Interesting.

 

No idea. I don't really know the process with a "laser etched die" either, just something posted in the Canadian forum on CCF many years ago that stuck in my head. It was an 1881 or 1882 cent gem red that fooled the ICCS graders, but it had the wrong obverse or something. Similar almost microscope parallel lines from the laser etching the die.

 

Rare 1959 d wheat penny!

 

Very rare, like one of a kind.

 

actually its not one of a kind. but its really rare!

 

Any update Sal? Anything that good was probably made the same way as the one found in 86, The coin specialist think it was made by spark erosion. I have always heard the term but never understood that process? Do you have any thoughts @-jeffB

 

Sorry. No updates of as late. I'll check again.

 

All I know about it is what I've Googled, and I haven't worked very hard at that. I have a general idea of how it works, but I'm afraid I don't understand it well enough to explain it.

 

Just got word from a guy over at "the other" forum and he says that the guy is trying ANACS for authentication. Time will tell. My guess is it will be found to be a copy, a good one at that.

 

Well, as far as I know there's only one with any sort of story about how it's maybe "legitimate" because a Secret Service currency expert said so, or something. I'll bet bank on "there's no way in hell ANACS is going to authenticate it."
https://www.pcgs.com/news/the-mystery-of-the-1959-d-mule-lincoln-cent

 

I have a book in my library called Numismatic Forgery by Charles M. Larson, c2004. In the Introduction, he speaks specifically about the 1959-D Wheat Reverse Mule that was publicized in a 2002 Coin World article. The coin was never proved to be either genuine or a fake. You can get more history on this at @KBBPLL's link.

Mr. Larson claims in the book that an imprisoned forger, Mark Hoffman, claimed to be the creator of this mule. Speculation by Mr. Larson claims that Hoffman created the dies for the struck coin using an electroplating process. There are other claims that the dies were created using a spark erosion process.

As far as I know, the Coin World example has been unique. If the OP's cited example is not the CW coin, then it would be the second example to come to light.

In any event, I doubt the coin will be authenticated.

 

I would use NGC!

 

This wheat back 1959 penny was known for a long time. not unique. But amazing! you might get a few thousand for that!!!