Which 1914-D Lincoln is graded higher?

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The first one is PCGS, the second is NGC. They are graded differently. What are the grades/which one is better, in your opinion?
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    C-B-D, Mar 4, 2017
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  3. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member

    i would say, that the top one is the higher grade of the two, imo
     
    jfreakofkorn, Mar 4, 2017
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  4. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    Top one is higher.
     
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  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Top is the top
     
    Kentucky, Mar 4, 2017
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  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Yup top is a technical better but since you ask it must be a trick question. Did they eye appeal hit the top one for the woody and verdigris on lower reverse or details it for the splotch around the verdigris?
     
    Cascade, Mar 4, 2017
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  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I'll grade the top one at 20 and the second at 13 . That's out of 70 of course .
     
    Rick Stachowski, Mar 4, 2017
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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    13?

    whose grade is that?
     
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  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Rick Snow. Didn't you get the memo of his new micro grading system :hilarious:
     
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  10. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    I'll guess that the top one came back "details"
     
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  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Just to lazy to put the prefix ....
     
    Rick Stachowski, Mar 4, 2017
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The lower one because of the verdigris.
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    IMO, the top coin obviously has less wear than the bottom coin. I grade it VG-10 details (green environmental damage). However, I'll bet PCGS graded it F-12 details. :nailbiting:

    The bottom coin may just squeak into VG-8; however, I'll bet it is net graded due to the damaged reverse and received a straight grade of G-6. :nailbiting:
     
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  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I suspect the bottom coin is graded higher . . . I think the top coin was lucky to be graded, and has been netted to address what appears to me to be a very careful cleaning (brushing) of its surfaces, leaving it with an unnatural look. While marked up, the bottom coin is completely natural.
     
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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    :rolleyes:
    Whats" green environmental damage"?
    That spot was perfectly noticeable when graded,
    Was it overlooked because of age?
     
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  16. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    I'll guess VG10 for the first one and G06 for the second one. As to which one is the "better coin," I think that's up to personal preference but I kind of like the second coin more.
     
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  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    IMO, the top coin is natural enough. The streaks are from the planchet alloy mixture not from brushing. Key is the brown color on the more worn parts of the face. If the coin were cleaned, these areas would not look as they do - perfectly natural.
     
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  18. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    We're both entitled to our respective opinions. I'm just suspicious that the top coin has been doctored . . . brushed and then darkened in isolated areas of concern. I think the lighter areas you cite as streaking, are micro grooves in the surface from brushing, and reflect more light than the surrounding areas.

    Seeing the coin in hand would convince me one way or the other.
     
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  19. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll guess the second one graded higher.
     
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  20. TopcatCoin

    TopcatCoin TC

    The second one (bottom) graded higher. TC
     
    TopcatCoin, Mar 5, 2017
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  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Top one.
     
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