"stark nachgeschnitten" - anyone speak German?

Who speaks German here?

I saw a coin I need in an upcoming German auction, however this is included in the description:

Dunkelgrüne Patina, geglättet, Rs. stark nachgeschnitten

Google translate tells me:

Dark green patina, smoothed, rs. Strongly trimmed

So it's smoothed. I'm not sure about "rs. Strongly trimmed". Does this mean "thoroughly tooled"? It can't mean "clipped" as it's a bronze coin.

Please help.

 

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Literal translation is "heavily cut".

 

ie, heavily tooled. Damn.

 

Or it could simply be a deep rim cut, etc., not retooling over the entire surface of the coin. And how would they do that anyway?

With several potential problems, the fact that they don't bother to show you the other side = bad news.

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Wonder if "rs." means ruckseit, i.e., "reverse".

 

Both sides are shown on the coin I'm looking at (Antinous). Unfortunately so many Antinous medallions have smoothing/tooling/pitting issues. More do than don't. I'll tolerate honest wear but can't deal with tooling.

 

Just say NO to tooling

 

Correct, Rs. = reverse, but you got the German term a bit wrong - Rückseite (yeah, I am German and a smartass too

nachgeschnitten = trimmed/clipped/recut (literally translated) but certainly not tooled

 

Is the German word for tooled "bearbeitet"?

 

I'd say yes, but obviously in a negative sense in this case.

 

So - recutting/trimming/clipping: this refers to trimming of the flan? Never heard of this being done on bronze coins.

 

Regarding the coin which is prompting your questions, to me the hair looks tooled. I could be wrong.

 

If there's doubt there's no doubt, I guess! This plus the (rightly) acknowledged smoothing means I'm just not confident enough. Damn. I'll wait for the next one.

 

I think in German ancient-coin catalogs "nachgeschnitten" does mean "tooled". At least, it is often used to described tooled coins, the design was (re)cut after it was made, that is, in modern times.

 

Valentinan is correct: the word 'nachgeschnitten' when used to describe ancient coins means tooled. Absolutely. Devices have been modified/retouched.
'Bearbeitet' is an alternative word which is a bit stronger in meaning than 'nachgeschnitten.

 

I shouldn't have commented as ancient coins are not my playground. Not even sure how you guys know what coin this is about, as I don't see a link. Spooky


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Yeah we don't link to active auctions here. We don't want to draw attention to our targets and invite more competitors to drive up the price.

 

Similar feelings here; was about to make a comment but then wasn't quite sure, and when I came back to the topic today, the discussion was already in full swing so to say.

Not all that spooky as your preferred web search engine will tell you, hehe. Agree with Greg - in general, if you want to know more about a coin, it is very helpful to provide some context information. With ongoing auctions/sales that is a double edged sword ...

Christian

 

I didn't know the ancient guys had access to modern witchcraft such as Google :-D

 

Most of us ancients use this

 

Google?