Ugly and rare, or common and beautiful?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by lordmarcovan, Feb 1, 2026 at 3:49 PM.

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Assume the two choices are coins of equal dollar value. Which would you go for more?

  1. The ugly rarity

    4 vote(s)
    26.7%
  2. The beautiful but more common one

    11 vote(s)
    73.3%
  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Just a quickie poll. Which appeals to you more in general: rarity, or aesthetics and eye appeal?

    Sure, it's a sliding scale, with varying degrees along the lines, but I'm just speaking generally here.

    As a generalist and Type collector, I come down on the side of aesthetics a bit more, but both attributes are important, and if I can collect a coin that is at least scarce in addition to being attractive, then so much the better (best of both worlds). But my pockets aren't deep enough to do that very often.

    I'd have a hard time accepting a coin with negative eye appeal in my primary collection, simply because it's rare. US Chain cents come to mind as an example.

    But don't hold me to that- one day I might go for a worn-out 1796 quarter or a slick Chain cent. You never know.
     
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  3. Histman

    Histman Too Many Coins, Not Enough Time!

    Aesthetics and eye appeal for me.
     
  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    For me it's aesthetics hands down. I have bought a very small number of ugly coins to fill a hole. I have nothing against attractive circulated coins. It's the ugly ones I avoid.

    Here is the ugliest coin I ever paid big bucks for. I wanted to finish the cent date set from 1793 to date, and this coin filled the hole.

    1799 Lg Cent Me 10 All.jpg

    This coin was not quite what I wanted, but what I wanted was never available when I had the money for it. It's not really ugly, but I really wanted a VF. For those who don't collect the coins which go into these sets, both of these less than perfect coins, can't be had for less than 5 figures.

    1796 half dollar All.jpg
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Neither of those is hideous, and both are appealingly rare.
     
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    As a general rule of thumb, if I cannot afford an example in problem-free Fine (F12) grade, then I'm not going to include that type or date in my collection.

    But like I said, one day I could make an exception (say G4 or better- but problem-free) for something like a Chain cent.
     
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, that was my attitude. When I was lacking the 1796-7 half dollar, a dealer had one in Poor condition that had been holed and polished. He wanted $9,000 for it. If I had mortaged my underwear, I could have raised that, but I wanted no part of that coin. It's better to have a hole in your collection than something like that.
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Same here, I will add though, the mojority of the coins I buy are a variety/error of some sort. Eye appeal and MS are my go to style.
     
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  9. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    For the area I collect, picker tokens & tickets, I don't shy away from an ugly rare piece. Often that's just the nature of my collecting area I guess. Sometimes the only piece(s) known, only survived because it was buried, thrown down a well or the like.

    For coins though, definitely eye appeal.
     
  10. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    I have to say both. I persue rare varieties but my one caveat is that the coin must be attractive. As a matter of fact, the last thing I always do; I take a long look at any coin I am about to bid on or buy, if it doesn't give me a visceral thrill to look at, I let it go because there will always be another coin and I am one of those people who actually look at their coins almost daily. James
     
  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    It was the Strawberry Leaf cent in this recent post by @Evan Saltis that made me think about this.

    Most of them are pretty rough, but when there's only four of them... well...

    I guess you could say I'd throw aside my ideas about aesthetics and accept a Strawberry Leaf cent in any condition. Not that I could afford one in even the worst of conditions.

    Bermuda Hogge Money is another type of coin that is seldom found very nice. Most on the market are ground finds, I believe.
     
  12. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    For me, emphatically both. For ancient coins, which make up the bulk of my collection, there are plenty of rarities to be had. I have a few that are unique, and many that are known from less then half-a-dozen specimens. And there are also some stunning examples of artistry to be had as well.

    For modern coins, which I've been getting into more lately, I'll often combine both: having discovered a visually attractive type, I'll check mintage numbers and then keep my eye open for a rarer year before buying one.
     
  13. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    Never heard of that one before! My first thought was, new entry on my wish list!

    Um, then I checked ACSearch... :nailbiting:

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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    But of course. That's what we'd all say. And both rarity AND aesthetics is great- IF and when you can afford it!

    But the example in the poll is a hypothetical choice between two coins of equal dollar value. Let's say one is a wretched but super rare piece. Let's say the other is a beautiful gold coin. Which would you go for? Assume the rarity is something in an arena that you avidly collect. So is the gold coin, let's say. The gold coin is equally valuable because it's gold and of a popular type. But there are a bunch of them out there. The rarity is something that seldom comes to market, and is seldom seen in acceptable condition (or if it is, a mere mortal can't afford it).
    Yep. The 1616 Bermuda Hogge Money is often considered the earliest coin associated with the American colonies. And most of the ones out there are detector finds from Bermuda itself. Only 37 of the sixpence are known, according to Numista.
     
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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Hey, @The Meat man - Look up the Gloucester Courthouse shilling token on ACSearch, while you're at it... ;)

    You could count the existing examples of that one on the fingers of one hand... and still have a couple of unused fingers.

    I reckon I'd put up with a little corrosion on one of those.

    Here's a thread on the CU forums about them.

    So what makes them worth so much, when there are other unique or <5 known items that aren't that valuable? I suppose it was their inclusion in the Red Book that had a lot to do with it.
     
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  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm also in the generalist/type collector category and value eye appeal, so the common nice looking coin wins for me.
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's all about eye appeal to me. At a young age I made the mistake of buying several ugly coins. None of them ever gained any value. At auction most brought less than I had paid.
     
  18. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    So you're forcing me to choose! Okay! :p

    I would say, then, that I'd probably lean towards the better-looking coin. Mostly because, as others have mentioned, I would enjoy looking at a pretty coin more than at an ugly one, even if it were rarity.
    And to be honest, part of the enjoyment for me is showing the coin to others and seeing their enjoyment...and everybody enjoys a beautiful coin, whereas not as many will find the same enjoyment out of a decrepit rarity.

    Whoa! Never heard of that one before, either, unsurprisingly. Yes, I would put up with some defects as well. ;)
     
  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Well said. I feel the same way about sharing my collection. Though I often "walk the road less traveled" in my eclectic style of collecting, I do try to go for stuff that most fellow collectors would understand on at least some level. Sometimes even stuff that a non-collector might understand and appreciate.

    I couldn't, for example, be one of only a dozen people who collected Politzanian povlars by die variety. So what if the one I have is unique or exceptionally rare? When only five or ten other people collect them, who is there to even care, right?

    (*Don't bother looking up "Politzanian povlars" on ACSearch. I just made them up as an example.) ;)
     
  20. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I am solidly in the eye appeal category. As a poor man coin collector my whole life I always settled for common, worn coins. And I still appreciate a historic coin that worked for a living. But I now only purchase attractive coins with little or no regard for rarity.
     
  21. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    I would always say aesthetics , rarity is often a price barrier and I find little pleasure in knowing that I own something others couldn't and not interested in bragging rights. I probably wouldn't spare time looking at a Gloucester Courthouse Shilling Token as hundreds of more attractive coins would be picked up first. I could easily spend an hour or two pondering what great coins I could own for the price of the shilling token. No doubt it has given some one great pleasure in its possession and good luck to them, but its not for me. I totally agree with the comments @The Meat man made on this.
     
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