Could I get an opinion on these two pictures, please.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by KeviniswhoIam, Jan 28, 2026.

  1. KeviniswhoIam

    KeviniswhoIam Well-Known Member

    Here is a recently acquired Limetanus. Love the coin, and am trying to take pictures to catalogue it. The only difference in the two shots is simply a +3 white balance when taken, and no white balance (darker one)......your opinion, please?

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  3. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    IMO…the +3 white balance setting chases away the shadowy recesses so you see the entire surface condition. I would choose that for cataloging…Spark
     
  4. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    How about a +2? I like the higher contrast on the first one, but to @Spark1951 's point the second shows a bit more surface detail.
     
  5. KeviniswhoIam

    KeviniswhoIam Well-Known Member

    My camera has +3 increments, so its 0 or +3.......I am trying to avoid processing after the fact through editing programs
     
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  6. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    The 1st pic is better IMO. It's more eye-appealing.
    This coin is superb, congratulations BUT... the white plastic slab with its sort of teeth ruins the picture.
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    That's a lovely coin.

    I think a "happy medium" that's somewhere in between your two photos would be best. The first picture shows the contrast and the brightness of the silver nicely, but is a bit shadowy. The second picture shows more of the surfaces, but it looks just a little bit too "hot" to me, maybe? Then again, I'd probably go with the second one. It's not too bad, really.

    Why not? Didn't stop me from tinkering around with it in Lunapic. ;)

    Since you have the coin in hand, you could be a better judge of how the post-edits would look.

    My tinkering produced something that's probably farther off the mark than your second photo, but oh well. I was just playing around.

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    That's the problem with those accursed NGC prongs. Mind you, I am an unrepentant slabber of ancients myself, and I use NGC, but I always pay the 8 bucks for the (pre-slab) Photovision images. It's totally worth it. In fact, when I've bought ancients that were already in NGC slabs, I've paid for them to be sent back, cracked out, photographed in the raw, and reholdered.

    Compare the rather hazy, prong-ridden slab pix on this Athenian Owl with the Photovision images.

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  8. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    The second picture is best in my opinion. It's a more natural view of your coin.

    Bruce
     
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  9. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    That's one reason I prefer PCGS to NGC slabs. The PCGS "prong" style is WAY less visually obtrusive. The slabs themselves are also much stronger and harder to break than NGC's slabs, and just look nicer IMO.
     
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  10. KeviniswhoIam

    KeviniswhoIam Well-Known Member

    I’m going to reimage this, paying more attention to F stop and I’ll lower the ISO as far as I can. Silver seems easier than copper….:my Fugio should be interesting.

    I bought it in the slab, so, I had to accept the slab. I don’t think I want to go through the expense of having it reslabbed….also, they aren’t making more of these (well, except
    For maybe China), so I don’t want to risk losing it. Bad as those teeth are, the coin is protected.

    I absolutely appreciate everyone’s input here. I can alter the white balance with editing software, but I’ve seen too many over processed pictures, and was trying to avoid that. Also, those scratches on the slab! Has anyone tried to minimize them with a light wipe of mineral oil, etc?
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Indeed, but PCGS is not an option with ancients. And since the quality of their TrueView imaging has declined so drastically over recent years, and NGC’s Photovision has become quite superior, NGC gets all my business now.

    Now if only NGC would switch to a clear, unobtrusive prong style like PCGS has…

    *sigh*
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Here is a photo of @messydesk evidently using some kind of oil on one of my slabs recently, when I had him photograph some of my coins at the FUN show earlier this month. (I had six pieces that needed better photos but where reslabbing was not a good option.)

    You could ask him what he uses.

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  13. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Ultra-Pure Lamp Oil. I also use this as valve oil (see avatar). $10 worth will probably last you the rest of your life. Bring your own dropper bottle.

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  14. KeviniswhoIam

    KeviniswhoIam Well-Known Member

    Lamp oil…..oddly, I have this at work. It doesn’t appear to cloud the slabs apparently, so I’ll have to give it a look! Thank you!
     
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  15. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    It's also good for loosening goo from stickers. For the scratches, you need less than a drop, then wipe it across the slab face with your finger. If you have dust or bubbles in the oil, they'll show up in the image as blurry grey spots that you can just wipe off the slab. Bad scratches need to be polished out, though. Older holder PCGS "pixel" scuffs (tiny square patches -- you know them if you've seen them) should also be buffed out if possible.
     
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  16. KeviniswhoIam

    KeviniswhoIam Well-Known Member

    Great tips! I appreciate this……I endeavor to get this to an acceptable level
     
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  17. KeviniswhoIam

    KeviniswhoIam Well-Known Member

    Well, here I go....redid it, with Macro lens, F-9, AP, ISO 100, all taken at +3 white balance, and other than cropping, no editing whatsoever......I also did my Fugio do try out a copper.....I didnt do the paraffin oil fix, mostly because I forgot to! I feel the Fugio is a 12-x, slabbed as MS-63. Pretty weak reverse strike, and distinctive charcoal spots on the obverse

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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Looks light-years beyond any feeble coin photography attempts I could manage with my iPhone.
     
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  19. KeviniswhoIam

    KeviniswhoIam Well-Known Member

    Well, if it helps, my iPhone pictures are so awful, I don’t dare show them!
     
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