The counterfeiting of slabs is getting ridiculous

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Barney McRae, Jan 17, 2026 at 1:17 PM.

  1. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    My next project is looking for an uncirculated 1902-S Morgan. I've found two counterfeits in just one day of looking. The coin in this holder looks strange to begin with. When you can't trust a graded slab, it's really sickening. The first key was no hologram in the right hand lower corner. Then I crossed the cert to PCGS and it's no way the same coin, in fact the real one is Gold Shield Service. This one is not.:muted: I'm going to send the seller a message, I'll bet they are not even aware. counterfeit.png
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Report it to PCGS as well.

    Oh, the stench! Ugh! :yuck:
     
  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    One wonders… :shifty:
     
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  5. Barney McRae

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    I've looked at his other items, they look legit. Seller has no reported issues, and has quite a few nice graded coins.
     
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  6. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    It really is scary that slabs are being counterfeited. Hard to trust anything anymore.

    Bruce
     
  7. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    Well I'll be damned. Listing was to run another week, I went back to look again and seller had cancelled listing. I'll bet he is NOT happy with someone in his shop. (or kicking himself). One small win!
     
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  9. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    It's classic Darwin. The fat, dumb and happy get eaten.

    How would it be today if collectors in the 70's and especially the 80's had not started sniveling and paying others do the dirty work?

    I was ecstatic when I found out I could just pay ANACS to authenticate coins. There's a photo of my first submission in 1979 in Condor's first book. And then "what's this?" now they'll grade coins too. I don't have be bothered with any of this authentication and grading stuff? Just buy, submit, put a check mark on the list, throw it in the bank box, and wait until I'm rich. :p

    So, what good did it do us? "Buy the coin not the slab." Really? Pay for a graded coin that I still have to grade. Does anyone pay for an oil change and then do it themselves when they get their motor car home?

    For every collector like the OP ^ who can spot suspect coins and slabs, how many can't and end up getting eaten sooner or later. I'd bet anything it's way more than collectors from the 60's or earlier who had to do it all themselves.

    Someday we won't have to do anything. Just buy into an ETF. And the mantra will be buy the slab not the digital paper.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2026 at 3:18 PM
  10. Barney McRae

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    Guy actually thanked me in a message after he removed it. I was respectful when I alerted him about it being a problem slab. I honestly don't think the seller knew.
     
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