Toned ASE. Are these more valuable than your avg ASE?

I have just joined. I have 2 year 2000 ASE's that have toned naturally. Are these more valuable? Should I have them graded? These pics are of 2 different coins. One I took slightly closer pics because it actually has some color variation around the rim. I placed them beside a new 2017 ASE for comparison. I'm a silver coin noob. Any advice is appreciated.

 

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the green on the "toned" one looks like PVC damage

you might want to examine it more closely. If it is PVC damage, remove it immediately as it will eat away the coin.

 

That said, we sell them in the shop where I work and people tend to like nice, bright, pristine coins, not toned ASEs.

the fact is that a majority of them are found this way and so if any premium paid at all, I would guess that the premium coin is one that is bright white

 

First, welcome to the neighborhood @inkyjoe !

There are different forms of natural toning, and that displayed on your coins is not really the kind that toner collectors are willing to pay a premium for. I don't recommend that you submit them for grading.

Chris

 

It would be worth a premium if it looked like this one: http://www.kittlecoins.com/33797467.htm

 

Thank you for the information. These weren't stored in plastic flips or the capsules they are in now. They have been in a drawer for the last 17 years waiting for me to develop an interest in them. So I guess it's just the very showy bright toning that is valuable on coins. Is that right?

 

Thank you!

 

Beautiful! I see the difference. Thank you for the example.

 

These will get chunked in the back of the safe to add ounces to the stack then!

 

Joe... have someone look at the toned one. If it is PVC damage, have it removed now before you lose precious silver

 

I'll take it to my local coin dealer the next time I go in. Or should I just polish it myself since there's no value in the toning?

 

Better to let a professional look at it and remove it for you. There are ways to remove it without scratching up the coin. That's always going to be the way to go.

 

I see I can use acetone for this.

 

Okay, I'll screw the cap back on the acetone.

 

You really aren't going to harm the coin in anyway by giving it an acetone soak and since it's a simple 2000 ASE it's not going to be worth very much in the condition it's in already beyond silver value. I'd say go ahead and soak it.

 

Many collectors think toning = $$$. Not true in many cases. At least you learned this lesson early. I've seen people get taken for large amounts of money by overpaying for toning.

 

on bullion I do not see a premium, but people pay way more for it on like Ebay. it has to be attractive too. now I can see paying way more on coins with attractive toning. I am doing a toned Canadian quarters and halves sets. with experience you can see what looks like artificial toning and what natural toning looks like. some are obviously not natural.

 

I think that this is a misconception.

What many educated collectors realized a long time ago is that not every coin that is bright and shiny was always like that. There have been many patterns of toning that were credited to particular storage methods that if displayed on a given coin would indicate that the coin was original and never had been cleaned.

The problem is that over time, many of these patterns have been artfully reproduced to the point that you can never really be sure IMHO if the toning on a coin is artificial or authentic.

I once owned a 1949-S Roosevelt in a PCGS MS-66 holder that had typical Mint Set toning and was gorgeous, but the coin was an education for me.

So, my advice to you is this: Learn all that you can about a coin you're thinking of buying before you buy it. Learn what original luster and what expected toning might look like for coins of that grade and buy a coin that you like. If you like it, and it goes up in value, then you're ahead. If it goes down, you still like the coin and might consider keeping it.

oh and in the end... If you keep it long enough, it won't matter what it's worth. At least, not to you. Only to your heirs, but it's a gift and therefore any value is a plus to them.

 

Well said!

 

beauty is in thee of the beholder. some people go to sell coins and that pretty toning might not get factored in. The fun of this hobby is buying what you love/like.