How do I measure the thickness of a coin?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ed Snible, Feb 23, 2017.

  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great caliper-photos ...

    Ummm, but none of you are measuring the "thickness" of the coin

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  3. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

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  4. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

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  5. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I think @Alegandron measures thickness of the flan. I have never recorded any thickness measurements but have taken them out of curiosity on my thicker coins.
     
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  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Oh, and I purchased calipers from Air-Tite for like $6 when I was still entertaining the idea of putting all my trade tokens in Ait-Tites. I know other coin supply websites carry them but you could save shipping and probably find one locally. What I do like is that it's plastic and I feel safer touching my coins with them.
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

  8. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Because I enjoy Aes Grave, and most of my collection is BCE, there seemed to have been wide variances in Ancient coin standards prior to the influence of the Roman Empire. Therefore, many of my coins have very thick profiles. I measure the flans from the top and bottom, vs. everyone's side by side. I also measure thickness of the coin. I have several coins that are thicker than the total width of many of my smaller coins!
     
  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I don't think there's that much value in measuring the thickness of a coin. That varies depending on how soft the metal was and how hard the die was whacked in the mint. It has little value when it comes to attribution/identification.
     
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  11. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Perhaps. People didn't used to record die alignment either, but it turned out to be helpful. For example some mints usually used an alignment, but others used a random alignment.

    Many digital calipers have a "depth gauge" feature. Similar to the tread depth tools for automotive tires. Perhaps die depth will be useful and coin thickness will be a waste of time. My idea is to see if I can take something that was formerly judged qualitatively and measure it quantitatively. For example, if I measured a bunch of coins could I say things like "High relief (4.2mm, even for the Babylon mint which is typically 2 to 3.7 mm during this period)".

    If I show the coin in this thread people will be jumping on with their Eastern Mint Alexanders, then any coin with Herakles. Soon my question will be forgotten. I'll get around to posting it on some other thread later.
     
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  12. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    How to measure depth with a caliper:
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  13. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Maybe it could become a new way to spot forgeries to measure die depth and coin thickness. It depends how consistent the range is on each issue. Perhaps some issues are all over the place while others are very consistent. If we don't measure we won't know. How about picking a specific type and measuring a lot of examples to see what we find?
     
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  14. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    That picture assumes the deep part and the highest part are right next too each other. I can figure out how to do the measurement (I'll probably drill a hole in a transparent plastic pane). I posted here to see if there is a well-known technique for coin depth measurement. I am getting the idea there isn't.
     
  15. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    heres a pic of measuring
    the relief / height of an Alexander tet. I measured 6 of them, postum and lifetime, all are 4,5 - 5 mm
    P1170974.JPG
     
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  16. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    That's what I would do. I have a depth micrometer, but it wasn't purchased for coin measuring. They are quite a bit more expensive, but very easy to use and more accurate.
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  17. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I seldom measure thickness of coins. I usually measure the thickness of cast bronze items, especially bars.
     
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  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I use the harbor freight calipers, but for soft metals, a piece or two of electrician plastic tape over the jaws will save you from ulcers. You can then use the 'zero' button to correct the value. If you plan to use a metal depth gauge, tape or instant glue a straight bristle about 5mm in length, so the metal doesn't touch the coin. acetone will remove the super glue after use.
     
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  19. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I use plastic calipers. They might not be as precise as metal digital calipers...but I'd rather be 0.2 or 0.3mm off than have a nasty scratch on the coin from using calipers with a material that's harder than the coin's metal.
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I never treat my coins nastily enough to scratch 'em, but I certainly don't baby them either ...

    => that's the beauty of ancient coins (they've seen a whole lotta hands!!)


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  21. I_v_a_n

    I_v_a_n Well-Known Member

    @stevex6 I use the same to measure diameter. It is completely enought precision for our aimes :))) all other is a NASA devices for ancient coins :)
     
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