Getting Ebay to pull an auction

The 03-S was painful enough but the 38-O takes the cake!

What really scares me is that this joker puts up fairly decent pics and yet the masses of morons still come to him!

Like mosquitos to a bug light.

 

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What can be done about this piece of work? This guy is a total crook. What if I just win this coin and then go to the authorities? I'll risk the $$$ just to see this dude get kicked off.

 

Anyone here remember the 1852 California Gold Token I bought on eBay? Well, I returned it (forceably) and got my money back. So of course he relists it, only now he has changed the auction. Now there's a $30 Buy It Now!!!! I know I was PT Barnum's proverbial sucker, but this guy won't quit trying, and eBay just doesn't care.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320143899517&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1

 

Actually, I have several normal Adams dollars, with the edge-lettering in tact, that the clad layer is showing.
So, I wouldn't necessarily call it on that.

 

I doubt that it will do any good, but I reported it.

 

Yes, I DO remember that Mike and would say I can't believe it but it IS ebay. This could be their second chance at seller's fees.

Of course the seller lists his address in the auction. Hmmmmmm...... what if he got a bunch of unsolicted letters from coin collectors. Would be worth my stamp.

clembo

 

Then shave off the lettering and let the funds start to flow Roto!
Or... start selling those as rare errors.

Either way I expect a cut.

 

Right on Clembo, it IS worth a stamp and an email asking seller why he is selling the same coin twice.

Also, here is my response from ebay on the fake svdb. I reported it from my seller account ( power seller ).
*******

Thank you for writing eBay's SafeHarbor Department about a listing or
seller you would like us to investigate for fraudulent activity. We are

concerned about this type of activity and want to assure you that we
will review your report as soon as possible, usually within 24 hours.

Due to privacy concerns, we will not keep you informed about the status

of our investigation. While you will only receive this acknowledgement
of the receipt of your report, please be assured that we will
thoroughly
review the situation.

*******

 

shortgapbob,

per eBay

Since you are working out there, does the ANA have any interest in what goes on at eBay? Do they ever do anything or even attempt to do anything?

 

Hey Jack, I sent the winning bidder a message about his bogus purchase. I hope I didnt ruin his day too awful bad. If these people are going to spend that kind of money then someone should certainly tell them the difference between genuine and fake.

 

Oh, clembo!!! What a positively ingenious idea!!! We wouldn't do that tho would we???

LMAO

 

I suppose there is no way they could become proactive in stead of reactive.

 

I'd just like to have the ear of a community watch person

 

Yes you can see the different layers on a regular dollar if you look for it, but the transition between the layer tends to be "rough" and uneven because of the shearing action of the punch cutting out the blanks. The difference in the colors is also usually hard to see. (Because some of the metal from the outer layers is "smeared" over the inner core.)

On a coin that has had the edge ground off typically the color difference is sharp and clear, and the transition between the inner and outer layers is sharply defined and STRAIGHT.

Also the shearing action of the planchet punches, and the scraping of the coin against the collar as it is ejected after striking, leave vertical scrape marks on the edge of the coin. These scrape mark are CLEARLY visible on genuine plain edge coins (and on lettered edge coins as well.). So far every fake plain edge I have seen has had the lettering removed by grinding that goes around the circumference of the coin. These show none of the vertical scrapings and instead show thousands a fine scratches that go around the circumference giving the edge a matte-like finish.

One final thing to look for on genuine coins is a beveling on the edge. A planchet has a rounded edge. When it is struck it expands and presses against the collar creating a flat spot on the edge of the coin. Examining the edge of the coin shows a flat rim and a flat spot on the edge and "bevels" that go between them. A fake plain edge coin almost always shows a rounded edge with no flat spot. In a few cases they use a lathe and in that case the edge is typically cut completely flat (and it is definitely underweight. The lathe method with a cutting tool removes more material than a lathe and Emery cloth)

 

No! What I imagine is a program that if X number and/or y% of members report a listing, the auction would be reported/examined depending on how it was set up. I don't even think I am talking anything sophisticated.

 

Have to agree with you on that and it works to ebay's advantage of course.
THEY KNOW THAT BOGUS COINS GET SOLD ON A DAILY BASIS.

They can always claim the "we can't police every auction" angle and unfortunately it's true.
I do believe they could police a bit better but the bottom line is just that the bottom line.

Guess we just have to keep reporting auctions and claim our occasional victories. Educating via CoinTalk is another tool we have to keep using.

Let's just keep plugging away.