Fake 1893-S for your enjoyment and ridicule

Currently up for auction on the Bay. Seller is at least honest, suspects coin may not be real, and traded some auto parts for a box of Morgans. There is a video of it being weighed, within specs, non magnetic, and the thing looks proof like. The mirror finish alone is a big red flag. There aren't many dies for this one, the mint mark looks way out of whack and too far right. (our left) Maybe this will be a fun thread. Link included so you can watch the video. Color doesn't look right either but sometimes that is due to type of lighting.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/336315023788?mkevt=1&plmtId=1110100101&mesgId=4001&mkpid=0&emsid=enull.m161499.l174140&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid&bu=44987228490&trkId=826d77ab-fda6-3230-ad7d-71f4ccccf846&cnvId=a7fb74a1-c76a-4a5d-81a4-a4efd73d9c0c&osub=-1~1&crd=20251203112604&segname&recoId=336315023788&recoPos=1

 

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My reaction is "oh come on." An 1893-S in that condition is worth 6 figures but the seller doesn't want to pay for authentication. No returns. "They appear to be authentic" is not a suspicion that it might not be real, so let's not give them any credit for honesty.

 

Check out the seller's other coins. Most of them appear to be real. As for the seller, I didn't look but I don't think his account is dealing in coins. Most people on the street don't have a clue what coins might be worth. You are probably correct though. The bidders are scarce as hen's teeth. Ok I looked, he appears to be an infrequent seller of computer accessories.

 

Check out the 1889 CC. It could pass for genuine. There are 25 bids on it. It's almost as rare as the 93S. I would not touch any of those coins with a 10 foot pole. Caveat Emptor!

 

Someone bought that for $1136

 

Ebay isn't letting me see any of his items. Post a link.

 

Here is the 89cc. Went for 761.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/336315066228

 

Thanks,
That one is also fake, not a contemporary, but an older modern chinese. The fabric of the coin just looks wrong to me. Maybe the wear pattern. the xtra large CC. The color just looks wrong. Hence why I collect mostly AU and MS coins.

 

Lots of hoodwinked bidders today. The 89cc was less suspicious than the 93S for obvious reasons. That 93S looked PL and a real coin like that is worth 100K. eBay is digging their own grave though. These offers are a lot more believable than the Chinese junk they allow on a daily basis. I call their practices the goose that killed the golden egg.

 

Strange looking

 

I need one but this isn’t the one. Too phony looking for me.

 

Are my eyes playing tricks on me or does it look like the die (or metal cast) is rotated wrong on the 93S? The wreath looks rotated wrong on the reverse, the bow and mint mark is out of whack regarding alignment.

 

Yep, there's some folks around with lighter wallets to go along with their bad eyes! I agree .... it has 11' pole marks all over it.

 

And I wouldn't add any, either.

 

You can't buy a coin like that, that is not certified and encapsulated.
EBay is a disgrace. And the seller is not too far behind.

 

Oh, you don't know the half of it. eBay openly sells coins from China. They will be key dates/mint mark coins selling less than melt. "54 SOLD! Hurry before our inventory runs out!" eBay doesn't give a rat's ass, and will tell you those listings don't violate their policy.

 

Impossible to do business with a company like that.
All the listings that are reported goes to a "bot". And the message they
send no matter what: It doesn't seem this item violates our policy.
Even when it does. You can't be in business with people who sell counterfeits, they are jointly responsible and should be prosecuted.

 

All that being said, there are very good deals on fleaBay to be had. But you better know what you are doing, because the amount of junk is endless. It's a real shame, because it's going to run off younger, more inexperienced coin collectors.

 

I saw another fake Morgan today. I didn't save an image of it, it is just redundant whining when nothing will ever be done about it. I talked to the local Secret Service office about this recently, they told me that sadly, they don't prosecute fake coin sellers anymore, only currency cases. Their plate is full already with other national security issues. I'm not shocked by either of these things.