Guess the grade (early dollar)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ksparrow, Nov 24, 2025 at 7:13 PM.

  1. Shrews1994

    Shrews1994 Collecting is my passion.

    Im going with VG20!! Cool coin!
     
    ksparrow likes this.
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I'm seeing a F15 coin (or a tad better), and a very nice example of a scarce issue.

    1797 Drapeds are scarcer than 1795's or 1796's.

    This is my 1795 Draped, VG10.

    1795 Draped Bust Dollar OFF CENTER Bust VG10-OBV - REV - 2025.png 1795 Draped Bust Dollar OFF CENTER Bust VG10-OBV - REV - 2025.png
     
  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    VF-25 in terms of wear, but the rims are a concern. If they net graded it, it's a Fine-15 to VF-20.
     
    ksparrow and Mr. Numismatist like this.
  5. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    F15 green bean

    Very nice coin!
     
  6. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Thanks for all the comments folks! I'll go ahead and post the insert now:
    1797 label.jpg So after all it is a details coin ( did not intend to sandbag anyone with a details coin)
    I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out the "scratch" that bothered CACG. There are some toned over marks in the left obverse field. There is a toned over thin line across Liberty's neck at about, well, necklace level. Nothing that really sticks out like a sore thumb. It might straight grade at another service, I don't know. I understand that CACG is extremely picky. It fits in nicely with the rest of my early dollars, most are in F grades. I have dreams of finishing a date set, still need the 1796, 1798, 1802 and 1803, I have a feeling the 1798 slot will stay open as that coin is very pricey even in F to Vf.
    Thanks again for all the interest and insightful comments my friends.
    and Lord M your 1799 is a stunner!
     
  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted Supporter

    Sorry, but the CAC bean on a “details” label, that’s just wrong. I’d try another grading service, maybe it will straight grade and you’ll eventually get a real CAC sticker :-D
     
    Anthony Mazza likes this.
  8. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    They didn't approve it, that's just the logo for the grading service. The "beanery" is a different service at a different location. Coins that are straight graded at CACG are supposed to be worthy of CAC approval, however. I guess the market will decide about that.
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The obverse scratches are in Liberty’s hair. From around what would be 9 to 7 o’clock. I didn’t notice them at first but I do now.
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Still a beautiful coin in my opinion.
     
  11. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    Bean, no bean. Grade, no grade. It matters not. A fantastic coin regardless, is right.
     
  12. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    How do you tell adjustment marks from old scratches?
     
    ksparrow and KBBPLL like this.
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Thanks! :)
     
  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    For one thing, they tend to be in parallel rows, whereas random scratches are more... well... random.
     
    Mr. Numismatist and ksparrow like this.
  15. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    I am late to the game but congrats on such a beautiful coin. I am also not particularly talented at grading these but my guess would have been in the VF range. I did see the scratches that run down the figure of Liberty but I am in the camp that thinks they are being WAY to picky to "Detail" a coin like this. I would bet that in hand if you know to look for them you will catch a flash that makes the scratches slightly more noticable, but I would only detail a piece like this if they were the firsdt thing you notice; not the 5th. James
     
    ksparrow likes this.
  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Like everything else in grading there is a subjective element to assessing marks. These are fine, closely spaced and straight, like a file would make. there are also a couple in the field above the hair and bow. You really have to look hard to make them out. compare with this one that straight graded at NGC, as far as a scratch is concerned: 1798 dollar obv.jpg
     
  17. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted Supporter

    Sorry, I wasn’t clear in my last post. I know it’s just the logo but it shouldn’t be there, especially not on coins without a straight grade.
     
  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm guessing that what we interpreted from pictures as "adjustment marks" they interpreted as scratches. They have the advantage of experience and in-hand assessment.

    But there's some consolation that it is VF details? No idea what you paid for it (we don't need to know if you don't want to tell us), but having it certified does at least increase the re-sell potential.
     
  19. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    It is a special coin, I don't care what the grader thought. Congrats on a nice pickup.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page