Help with Morgan Grade 1889-CC

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Inspector43, Nov 19, 2025 at 8:48 AM.

  1. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I have identified this Morgan as VAM-5A but would like some input on the grade.
    89 CC VAM 5A.jpg
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    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

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  7. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Quick check at PCGS Photograde it’s F12-F15.

    edit to add: NumisMedia FMV lists this date/F12 at $1,380.00.
     
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Fine-12 sharpness, but I’m concerned about the brightness in the fields and the dark halo around the devices. Could be a sign of improper cleaning.
     
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  10. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Assuming a straight grade (I don't see anything that would get it "details" but some people are pickier than I on such things) I'd go F-12 at least, maybe F-15 on a good day. Basing this on comparing pictures to my ANA grading standards book.
     
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  11. chrissy1955

    chrissy1955 Active Member

    I'm going with no better than F-15, but send it to me and I'll further examine it.
     
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  12. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I'm stuck between f12-15 but still better then the one I don't have lol :D
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’d be at F-12 on this one.
     
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  14. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I have become more sensitive to cleaning because it seems that more well circulated coins get docked for it these days. I used to easier on that than the graders are now. The more wear a coins gets, the more little problems it is going to have. Therefore they might be ignored, or given minor consideration for grading. Cleaning, it seems, is a bigger deal than it used to be.
     
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  15. chrissy1955

    chrissy1955 Active Member

    I clean all the coins I get with a mild solution of distilled water and soap. Purely for hygienic purposes because I've seen some of the folks who handle these coins and you don't know where those coins have been. And that black stuff on some coins.............yuck.
     
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  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Expericened collectors will tell you to be carful about removing some crud from coins. You might not be happy with what you find under it.
     
  17. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I think macho and investing play a big role. My standard has always been eye appeal. The cleaned or not cleaned characteristics are used as leverage more than standards. As a collector, I never planned on selling any of my coins; trade but not sell. Therefore, unless it was abrasive cleaning, I don't care much. Today, mine is better than yours, is more important than ever.

    The same with restored dates. What you end up with is proof positive of date and mint mark. If the restoration is carried out in a manner that is not distracting you can fill a hole and wait for a higher grade to come along. I've restored dates and finished with some nice coins. both of the following were smooth when I started them. They won't win awards, but they are real.
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