PROOF that not EVERY Accugrade coin was overgraded

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Burton Strauss III, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    2017.X04-obj-small.jpg 2017.X04-rev-small.jpg Of course, this was from Iowa...
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That is an interesting slab, it's not in the book. Very similar to ACG 7 but the font is different on both front and back labels. Mind if I capture the images?
     
  4. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I'm not so sure. Is the date easier to make out in hand? Looks overgraded to me. :p

    BTW, I am not-so-secretly on the hunt for the ugliest ACG MS or PF-70 I can find.
     
  5. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Go ahead... I posted the backs of my various Iowa labels at that other site in reply to your message, here they are again

    Dot matrix

    60xxxE2
    ACG-60277E2-Rev_#2014.XR3_small.jpg

    Two InkJet (notice the PO box line size is a larger font)

    56xxxD2
    ACG-56408D2-Rev_#2016.X31_small.jpg
    57xxxD2
    ACG-57083D2-Rev_#2015.XID_small.jpg
     
  6. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    I wouldn't say EASY, but you can see the blob of the 6 and the flat top of the 7. Weight would have excluded 1977 and this was probably slabbed before 1987...
     
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  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    You can exclude 1987 and 1997 by the composition.
     
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Alan Hager is still around, some company that now stickers PCGS and NGC graded coins.
     
  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    http://macablege.com/
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "SIXTEEN designations" for your coins that can't quite measure up to any of the actual designations.

    I watched long enough to see "Four Full Steps".

    "FFS", I thought to myself, and closed the window.
     
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  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I won't be a customer but some of their ebay sales are surprising if real
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    P-1 THAT IS AWESOME.
    So this is a counterfeit slab?
    THAT MAKES IT EVEN AWESOMER.
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Forgive me, but on a 'bad' day, I wouldn't even give a slab like that a second look. Coin like the either..........carry on fellows. :)
     
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  14. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    It doesn't really make sense for it to be a counterfeit slab. Why fake a non PCGS/NGC slab with a practically worthless coin in it?
     
  15. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    ACG was a perfectly reputable slabbing company at the start. In fact, the 1st patent for a coin slab is the ACG photoslab.

    However, they were also the 1st to discover the 'advantages' of market vs. technical grading during a period where the big 3 still held to technical grading. And so ACG was widely condemned for over grading.

    Mr. Hagar was also litigious to the point where 30 years on, some people still froth at the mouth upon hearing his name.

    They also franchised the ACG name, with branches in Iowa and California. And would, for a fee, slab coins under your company name. For a larger fee they would set you up with a turn-key operation (using the ACG style slab).

    The company relocated from Connecticut to Florida. Eventually, the company went to his wife (divorce?) and disbanded.

    (all of this is in the public records from the various states)

    Whatever happened to the ACG shell molds and the sealing machine(s) is unknown.

    Macablege is a completely separate organization, although it's been reported that he does and does not have an ownership stake.
     
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