Beautiful 1989 D Quarter with significant ghosting

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Inspector43, Oct 21, 2025 at 10:04 PM.

  1. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    This quarter has the best MS surface I have seen in circulation grade. Plus, it has great ghosting that I had to shoot from various positions to get the entire affect.

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Questions for you or the group. :);)
    What is the "ghosting" caused by? Also, doesn't circulated mean an Almost Uncirculated coin? It sure looks like a MS coin. Maybe MS63?
     
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  4. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Progressive Indirect Die Transfer aka ghosting - https://www.error-ref.com/progressive-indirect-design-transfer/.

    I'm guessing that by "circulation grade" @Inspector43 means circulation coins as opposed to proofs.
     
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  6. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

  7. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I'm still not sure if I've wrapped my head around it but basically it seems that a coin is slowly getting struck onto the opposite die through the planchets.
     
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Here you go. Try to figure it out if you dare. :woot:

    Ghosting in coin collecting refers to a phenomenon where a faint, incuse (sunken) or raised mirror image of a design element appears on the coin, often as a result of unusual striking conditions or die issues. Here are key points about ghosting: - It can occur when a coin is struck through a late-stage die cap, which is a thin metal cap formed on the die after multiple strikes. This causes a muted, distorted, and incomplete raised "ghost image" of the design to appear. - Ghost images may also form due to progressive, indirect design transfer, sometimes called "internal metal displacement," where metal flows inside the planchet creating a faint duplicate of design elements. - Another type is the incuse ghost image, which can happen when a planchet is unusually thin or struck off-center, producing a mirror image of the opposite side’s design pressed into the coin. - Greasy ghosts occur when grease or die fill accumulates on the die, transferring a faint, incuse mirror image of the opposite design onto the coin. These coins are usually well struck but show ghost images due to die contamination. How to distinguish ghosting: - Ghost images are never expanded or distorted like brockages. - Fine details in ghost images are muted or lost, with only the highest relief parts recognizable. - The thinner the metal, the clearer the ghost image. - Ghost images can be incuse (sunken) or raised depending on the cause. For more detailed examples and images, you can visit Error-Ref's Ghost Images page (https://www.error-ref.com/ghost-images-formed-by-grease/). Summary: Ghosting is a type of mint error or variety where a faint, mirror-like image of a design element appears on a coin due to die caps, grease, thin planchets, or metal displacement during striking. It is distinct from brockage errors and can be identified by its muted, non-expanded appearance.
     
  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I don't care if it was struck in 1889 or 1989... A blemish free coin is lovely to behold.
     
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  10. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I totally understand the great write-up but, to me, it looks like the shadowing is caused by the light reflecting off a blemish-free coin. As everyone knows, each part of the design is tapered ever-so-slightly, wider at the bottom and narrower at the top, so that it releases from the die after being struck. To me, it looks like light being reflected differently because of a slightly inward curved surface from the field.
     
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  11. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Scary ghost - BOO!

    A beautiful and interesting coin - did you find it in circulation, pull it from a mint set or purchase it?
     
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  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    No offense but that's clearly AI slop. "a faint, incuse (sunken) or raised" - it can't be both. I've seen AI say the same exact thing about die clashes - no, it's not "incuse or raised", stop pretending like you know what the process is that caused it and the result, which cannot be either/or. "where metal flows inside the planchet" - wrong, we're talking about dies here, not planchets. "Greasy ghosts occur when grease or die fill accumulates on the die, transferring a faint, incuse mirror image of the opposite design onto the coin" - what the everloving expletive are you talking about AI? Grease in the die transfers an image to the opposite side of the coin? Greasy ghosts? Stop smoking crack! Etc.

    Sorry, had to get that off my chest.
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The way I read it, it is the softening of the dies that causes ghosting. Not sure if that means that the dies were hardened correctly in the first place, or that the repeated striking causes the die to overheat allowing the opposed die to transfer it's details. I could see something mechanical causing a die to overheat.
    By the way nice looking quarter @Inspector43
     
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  14. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Ghost in the Machine
    Just put this Kennedy in a 2x2 this morning. A CRH find a few months ago IMG_3724.jpeg IMG_3725.jpeg
     
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  15. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Circulation find - very lucky on this condition.
     
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  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    This circulation find goes immed into a flip.
    Technically how can it be MS if it circulated?
    But it looks MS to me. And not low MS either.
     
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  17. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I see some stuff on Kennedy cheek and neck, but could be on the 2X2?
     
  18. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I agree and never understood how a coin found in circulation could be MS. Here is a 39-S Jeff I found recently in a roll from my bank. Not quite the same grade but very close.
    1939 S New Find.jpg
     
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  19. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Found in circulation. Over 50 years after it was minted. The ‘ghosting’ was why I picked it out, preserved in Mylar, and posted here for all to enjoy.
     
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  20. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I got it all from Coinauctionshelp.com
    Sorry:sorry: that you're having a bad day. :(
     
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