New PCGS Submission Error Coin

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Joshua Lemons, Oct 13, 2025 at 9:43 PM.

  1. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Hi all! I know this forum is mostly US error coins, but I thought I'd throw in a world coin, newly sent for grading by me.

    A friend on discord shared the eBay listing and I stalked it and was the lucky final bidder!

    I really like kipper era coinage and though I don't actively collect errors, this was just too good to pass up!

    I sent it off to PCGS with another world economy submission at the end of August. Interestingly, this coin made it back first and the other submission is still in grading!

    Nurnberg, (1621-22), 1/84 Gulden, KM#46
    I had the coin reverse mounted because I don't think I could tolerate the blank obverse facing the front!

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    This coin is flashy and much more toward the red end of the spectrum than the true view shows. Certain to be in the personal collection for a long time!
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Really nice coin and Errror! Now, would you be kind enough to explain to me what all this "mumbo jumbo" means? And Ed, you are excluded unless asked to comment. ;)
     
  4. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I certainly can't explain it as it's out of my regular collecting area. It seems as though from what I searched it happens when a planchet isn't properly ejected and the subsequent coin is struck with the other coin, not the die. I'm sure someone can explain it much better than me.

    What I am certain of is I knew the coin was MS and it was missing a side! Had only the obverse been struck, I would have likely thought this was one of the multiple uniface issues from Nurnberg.
     
  5. Tall Paul

    Tall Paul Supporter! Supporter

    Please educate me. I have never heard the term "kipper era." Interesting coin and I can see why you like it so much. I would feel the same if it were mine.
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

  7. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

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  8. Tall Paul

    Tall Paul Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you so much. Up to now the only kipper of which I was aware was a smoked fish. The history of money is so fascinating and this article adds to my base of knowledge. I'm grateful to you for expanding my horizon.
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    An Indent is when two different sized planchets are fed into the striking chamber at the same time.
    Really neat coin and error Joshua.
     
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  11. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Yes. As a German States collector with a focus on small denominations, it's a very important era. Many States only struck coins during this period, several having only one coin issue! Nurnberg had a very prolific mint though, one of the best! It's not uncommon to find high MS coins from there!
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Hey Joshua, did you happen to weigh the indent before you sent it for grading? It would give you the denomination of the intended planchet.
     
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    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

  14. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I did not!
     
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