Toning Paying for Color

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jfscmedic, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. jfscmedic

    jfscmedic Well-Known Member

    Also bought this coin this weekend. I like the color and might have paid $5 or $10 over Greysheet for the coin. But I've seen coins priced into the Hundreds that would have only been a $50 coin had it not been for the Toning. I've also noticed that most collectors either like Toning or they hate it. Not many in between.

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  3. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    I like it! I would and will pay a bit over Greysheet for a nice toner. Sweet coin my friend, and it's a MS 64 too!
     
  4. cpm9ball

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    This sort of toning doesn't usually command much of a premium, if any, and you can't really use the Greysheet to determine a value for the toning. It all depends on what a buyer is willing to pay for it.

    Chris
     
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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Not overly attractive toning, unless the pictures don't do it justice
     
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  6. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    It sounds like you paid a fair price for a nice, original piece. With that doubling on the date, you should be able to VAM it pretty easily.

    Do be careful buying toners until you get a sense of what should have a premium attached.

    :)
     
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  8. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    nice coin, it's a bonus when they are toned.i love purty coins,but never bought any or paid extra for that reason. they are pleasing to the eye, no one could say otherwise. it's a personal thing buying them for the color. i studied about these and tried to color moderns using various methods just for my own joy, but without much success yet. all that glitters...but still pretty. attempts to color coins 001.JPG
     
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  9. jfscmedic

    jfscmedic Well-Known Member

    The photos don't do it justice. Lot's of blue and Greens...Either way I like it. The doubling on the date is toning and not on the coin itself.
     
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  10. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    that's the bad thing about toning. it's the beginning of the end of the details on the coin.
     
  11. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Good guide, but be aware it's geared heavily toward recognizing high end toners and AT coins.
     
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  12. jfscmedic

    jfscmedic Well-Known Member

    I know you always hear about "Monster" Toned coins. Can't afford those. Plus at that point it's just what someone wants to pay for the color
     
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  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    The toning is a net neutral at best and even a negative to most. Its too dark, 4th stage. I don't really mind it but I wouldn't pay a premium for it. Is pay at most 10% below sheet personally
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I had a tube of Franklin proofs that was stuffed up with a piece of acidic newspaper from the 1970s, and the coin touching the paper was toned like crazy. So I took that same piece of paper and put it on a Peace dollar in hopes that one day I'll get a pretty toned Peace. It's been a year and so far, no luck...
     
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  15. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    it takes years like that, i watched a utube vid where a guy showed he took lye and sulphur powder mixed in water, went thru a little spechel mixing and straining, then put silver bars in the solution and took a AA battery and connected one wire to the bar and ran the other wire in the solution above the bar and colored it, i tried it and found out sulphur does not break down in water. the voice of experience.
     
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  16. cpm9ball

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    Wayte-Raymond albums used to be known for their wild toning, but after a while, the sulphur content in the paperboard tended to dissipate, losing all of it's toning ability. I suspect that it is the same result for the piece of newspaper.

    Chris
     
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  17. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    I like the reverse not so much the obverse. I would pay maybe 5 dollars over spot but not much more. Simply because its a decent grade. Beautiful coin none the less!
     
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  18. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Interestingly enough, those modern green Littleton folders have toned a few of my Roosevelt dimes. A 1964 turned a beautiful purple and I have a few dimes from around 2007 that have started turning sort of gold.
    Littleton Presidential Dollar folders have also helped toned some JQA dollars, giving it a nice outside fringe sort of thing. Neat!
     
  19. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    Interesting, I also just picked up a Littelton ASE that has some toning! Something to look into
     
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  20. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I would figure that their folders that are sulfur or acid free, as they're marked as archival safe and all that. But hey, I don't mind getting some nice natural toning!
    It does take a LONG time though.
     
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  21. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    I'm an absolute sucker for nice toning.
     
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