an 1881 S Morgan in MS63 (with a bean!) no less. Thought to be the earliest graded PCGS coin still in the original holder. Anybody else think this is slightly over the top, at $119,062.12 all in?? link to Reddit thread with photo: https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/comments/1mn48eb/the_17th_coin_ever_graded_by_pcgs_auctioned/
Looks like the Reddit thread has hit all the major points I'd make. I'm just as happy that my collecting interests don't draw me into bidding wars with the very very rich. My 1881-S, handed to me by my grandfather, is a 62 at best. Not interested in trading.
Those collectors are mentally ill. I don't like "rattle holders" at all. Twenty-five years ago I used to pay have them re-holdered. These guys just paid about 1,000 times what the coin is worth. It's an example of more money than brains on steriods.
Of course, there are lots of people in the country to whom the coin is worth $1, and they probably think we're mentally ill.
I am talking about paying over $100,000 for an 1881-S which is one of the most common dates in Mint State in the whole Morgan Dollar series. Even if the coin is an MS-65 in an MS-63 holder, it's not worth that.
Yeah, but the coin could be a 1966 Lincoln cent in MS61, and the slab would probably still get the same bids. As others have said, this is strictly bidding on the slab. Neither of us are slab collectors, so to us, it's nuts. But if there are two or more slab collectors willing to drop six figures on an "oldest known" slab, that's where this price comes from, and that's where there's potential for a speculator to get an even higher price in the future.
I'm assuming even the bean is irrelevant to value here. The only thing relevant is the serial number 17, and the only thing that would diminish its "value" is a slab surfacing with a lower serial number. No one cares if that slab holds a circulated LMC or a Stella. (Okay, a Stella would matter. Let's say "...or a high-grade CC Morgan".)
If someone wants to pay that much for a slab they deem historic, that's OK. Lots of things have their value in the history rather than the intrinsic value. That 1794 SP-65 dollar? Only worth about $35 in silver these days. Oh, well, if someone wants to pay more because of it's history, that's fine, too. That old painting for $100? Oh, it's a Rembrandt? That'll be a few million more.