Poll⛚➡Toned Collectors (Worried about the liquidity of your collection in 25 years?)

My only worry is that the toning on the coin will progress after that many years. They may turn ugly.

 

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Poll edited to add, im worried just as/if not more about coin turning in holder.

 

Cool. Thank you.

 

I'm not too worried. Pretty things have alway's been more treasured than regular looking things. It's human nature to want something that looks pretty and is different than all the rest.

Having said that, the definition of pretty can change over time as social acceptance and tastes change, but throughout all time, people have alway's thought of rainbows as pretty. So if something is really colorful, it's safe to say it will remain pretty and will be in demand.

 

Eventually, as has happened in the past, a certain type/look of artificial toning that fools the TPGS's becomes detected and from then on it falls out of favor. Looks like you are ahead of the curve. Thanks.

That intense double rainbow on the dime in post#13 is also seen on Buffalo nickels. I've never seen one of these in a slab as natural until reading this thread. Thanks for the info. Time will tell what happens to these in the future. I think genuine rainbows will always be special. That's because so many have been dipped and forever lost. Furthermore, as the taste of collectors matures, they usually seek the unobtainable and most appealing specimens. While some like bright natural as-made "white" frost others like color and that will never change. Only two things can happen that will possibly even things out. Naturally toned coins will be dipped to lower the population and artificially toned coins that defy detection will increase the population. In the end, everyone will still have plenty to choose from. And...

TPGS will be slabbing AT coins as natural and rejecting naturally tone coins as AT.

 

My thought exactly, otherwise not worried

 

From this point forward I think there will always be enough people interested in toners to maintain a market.

 

So good, you had to post it twice.

 

I'm not a tone collector, but I'm curious as to how TPG's and CAC fit into this? In the older US coin market CAC has certainly had an impact on the identification of and appreciation for originality. Is this true of toned coins?

 

Where is the "I couldn't care less." option? I don't buy coins for future salability. I buy them because I like coins.

 

Isn't there another thread that talks about when the coins turn black and the surface and other items just totally degrade after that?

 

It was toned coins that got me re-interested in coins after a nearly 40 year hiatus.
And I was able to get a Digital Album of the Year award from PCGS last year. And have also been mentioned in numerous PCGS newsletters and promotions. Some of my toned coins are actually on various high level pages of the PCGS website! Last year my "Fireball Rainbow" Lincoln Set was displayed by PCGS at both the Long Beach and ANA shows, which got me another award.

I do have a few tips for toned coin lovers

1. Try to develop your eye to attempt to discern between NT and AT coins. Not always an easy task, but you can weed out a good 95% cr@p you see on ebay by developing your eye.

2. Try not to pay huge premiums over guide -- unless of course something sings to you as a one of kind piece of art. I have paid huge premiums for a few of mine, but not with the idea of flipping, but more as acquiring art -- something that I had to have. Only do this if you have money to spare though! Most of my toners I bought very close to or under guide price. But a few i went through the roof for (be selective!).

3. Buy what you LOVE and not with the idea of selling for a profit later. Dont be a flipper, but a collector. Buy for your own enjoyment.

 

I think the risk is already here... I appreciate a beautiful natural toned coin, but hate the ugly ones. As for unnatural toning, they already are worthless to any serious collector. There is risk associated with any coin, so enjoy them while you can. Most of my collection is brilliant, but several of those begin toning every year. Some started out totally brilliant in the 80s but are now in various stages of toning, some attractive and some not so nice. At least I know they,re genuine.

 

A few of my personal favorites from my collection:

 

I would much rather buy beauties like these (in my eyes at least) that spark my passion and interest. Than a dime a dozen untoned red lincoln cent (which all look basically the same).

The 1934 I bought for $65 raw off ebay.

The 1940-S was sold for $49 raw off ebay, I traded for it (coins for coins) from the guy that bought it.

The 1950-D was $4 off ebay.

Most of these were under $100.

You dont have to break the bank. I am sure I could sell off of these now for big premiums if I wanted to, but they are not for sale.

 

Actually, I would probably buy the "dime a dozen" cents. A 20 percent profit on every dollar spent will make one quite rich.

 

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And I have to agree with Paddy. While very new to collecting, I have purchased AT coins just for the artistic beauty. I can't stop looking at them. But blast white can be just as beautiful in a very different way. And I can't stop looking at them either.

 

If you like iridescent blue on your copper, a common chemical will help to produce it.

Thankfully for toned coin collectors, several years ago, the TPGS began to accept the blue color as natural!

 

I've been collecting for fifty years, and I have seen toning both being accepted as adding to a coin's value and toning being considered corrosion. It seems to run in cycles and currently toning brings a premium and is generally accepted. I normally buy toned coins, primarily Morgans, because I like the way they look, on the other hand, the ones I have put into my Albums tend to not be toned.

I inherited a framed set of 20th Century coins from my dad. Apparently, the backing or even the holder, being old, have something in them that toned the silver coins in the set. The toning for the most part is rainbow, from the edge in. I brought the set to a Coin Club meeting and the results was very interesting. Some of the members raved over the beautiful toning (the Liberty Standing Quarter was the nicest toned) others said that it was a shame that the holder had corroded the coins. Even some of the Nickel Clad coins have a subdued toning. I guess that old saying, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is true.