1802 cent

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  1. Allan Ashford

    Allan Ashford Active Member

    Back again!
    A few United States coins in a recent job lot. Pretty much ID them but as always I fall down grade wise, any help would be appreciated

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Quite worn but looks to be the fraction 1/000 reverse. If so, that’s the better variety to have. The circulation wear and tear put this in the lower Good range.
     
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  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I am thinking S-230 R-1. I also think I see the 1 in the bottom of the fraction.
     
  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    There are some deep gouges on the obverse, but sometimes the older copper will get a pass on that. F/VF
     
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  6. Allan Ashford

    Allan Ashford Active Member

    Yes 1802 is quite an age. Many thanks for your input
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It's an uneven strike with enough marks to make it a "details" grade. The sharpness is a Fine taken down to VG. You can't say "Good" because early copper coins in that grade don't have much left on them these days.
     
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  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    mark_h is correct S-230 so it is a 1/100 variety
     
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  10. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I was just about to ask what metal they used back then for cents. It might just be the lighting but it doesn't even look like copper.
     
  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It was supposed to be copper, but other impurities got into it. This was technology that was over 220 years ago.

    The grey color might be from a bit of recoloring. Many of these coins have been “improved.” Sometimes it’s necessary to make them saleable. You can look down your nose at that, but if copper coins were not made more acceptable, the collectible supply would be much lower.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Mostly copper but the Flying Eagle Cents were 88% copper and 12% nickel as were the first years of the Indian Head Cent. In 1864, due to cents disappearance during the Civil War, the copper was changed to 95% copper and 5% tin and zinc.
    Inn1943 cents were made from steel and coated with zinc. In 1944 cents were 95% copper and 5% zinc but that was changed back to 5% tin and zinc in 1947. A metal changed occurred in 1959 with the introduction of the Lincoln Memorial Cent which was 95% copper and 5% zinc. This lasted until mid 1982 went thy he cost if copper was high enough to reduce the cent to 99.2% zinc and .8% copper in the core with a copper coating of pure copper. This made the cent 20% lighter than the copper cents.
    It remained this way until 2009. The circulation Lincoln Bicentennial Cents were the same but the Special Satin-Finish coins were 95% copper and 5% tin and zinc. The finally change occurred in 2010 with the introduction of the Shield Cents. They have a core of 99.2% zinc and .007 copper with a pure copper coating. This brings the total metal content to 97.5% zinc and .025 copper.
    So basically, cents were made of copper but a number of factors can go into the coloring of appearance of the coin. Copper is soft and malleable which was ideal for making coins in the early days. Technology had not advanced to where it is today.
     
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  13. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Not looking down my nose at all. I just don't know one thing about them and it looks odd. Thanks for the reply, that's how we learn. :D
     
  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    But... We like Odd. Some of Us are odd. :D
     
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