Plate coins in your collection

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  1. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Figure 152, to be exact.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    How did I overlook that? (or did I know and forget) :oops: I'll add that to its references right now :)

    Here's the coin-- I'll take any opportunity to show it since it's a top-tier favorite :D

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    SICILY, Selinos
    Circa 410 BCE
    AR litra, 11mm, 0.76 g, 1h
    Obv: nymph seated left on rock, right hand raised above her head, extending her left hand to touch coiled serpent before her; selinon leaf above
    Rev: man-faced bull standing right; ΣEΛINONTIOΣ above; in exergue, fish right
    Ref: Potamikon, p. 116 figure 152 (this coin); HGC 2, 1229; SNG ANS 711–2 var. (ethnic); SNG Ashmolean 1904–5; SNG Lloyd 1270 var. (same); Basel –; Dewing –; Rizzo pl. XXXIII, 6. Good VF, dark iridescent tone, some porosity. Rare.
    ex MoneyMuseum, Zurich;
    ex Leu 79 (31 October 2000), lot 404;
    ex Athos Moretti collection, #482, unpublished manuscript

    Hasty picture of the page in Potamikon (color is off; the paper is really crisp and white):

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  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sadly, I can never remember ... :bear: ... probably not though

    Wow, but congrats to you guys => those are very cool examples (some are Museum stuff, eh?!)

    :rolleyes:

    Keep that stuff up!! (you guys rock)

     
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  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Now THAT. is. really. COOL!
     
  6. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Yesterday I was looking through and enjoying old Sternberg catalogs (a Zurich firm from 1973 to 2000) and stumbled across this coin of mine (which is easy to remember because it is so much better than most of my Republican coins)
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    T. Carisius, 46 BC. Sear 446. Crawford 446/1. BMC I, page 528 says "45 BC" but that reference is older.
    Head of the Sibyl Herophile right [Maybe. AJN 25 (2013) p. 243-257 and plate 32, says the head is the head of the Sphinx)]
    Sphinx seated right, III VIR below.
    Ex Sternberg XXXII (29 Oct. 1996) lot 440 [This is what I found.]
    Ex Cederlind 129 (Dec. 2013) lot 158 [This I knew about from notes of the collector from whom I bought it.].
     
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  7. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Lovely coin. No doubt goes back further than that by the looks of the toning.
     
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  8. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Nice animated avatar!
     
  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    This is my favourite 'plate coin'.

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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.08g
    Rome mint, 71 AD
    RIC 49 (R2), BMC p. 14 note, RSC 643 var.
    Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: No legend. Vespasian laureate, standing in triumphal quadriga r., horses pacing, holding branch in r. hand and sceptre in l.
    Acquired from Ephesus Numismatics, December 2005.

    A very rare quadriga reverse struck for Vespasian at Rome. More commonly this type is seen from Antioch. It is so rare Ian Carradice asked if he could use my example for the new RIC II.1 plates.
     
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  10. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Here's one:

    Elagabalus
    AE 14, Elagabalus, Antioch, ca. AD 218-222. Obv: Elagabalus right; Rev: Delta Epsilon with star below, all within wreath, dark brown patina with red earthen highlights, some roughness, VF. Not in Lindgren I or III; Not in Sear, Not in Butcher. Lichocka Figure 3, Table VII, 56 (this coin illustrated).

    Published in: Lichocka, Barbara, "Delta-Epsilon issues of Elagabalus and Severus Alexander," in Classica Orientalia: Essays Presented to Wiktor Andrzej Daszewski on his 75th Birthday (Polish Center of Mediterranean Archaeology, University of Warsaw), pg. 310, Fig. 3, Table VII, 56.

    She listed two others but this is the only one illustrated, probably because it is so much smaller than the norm.
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  11. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    And some others:

    Cover coin for Potamikon and plate from Herbessos, also a Calciati plate:

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    Tauromenion, Potamikon and a Calciati plate:

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    Agyrion, Calciati plate, ex Virzi:

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  12. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Sileraians, Potamikon plate:

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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, you are CHEATING on those Potamikon plates! :D

    (Too funny, I was JUST about to ask you which ones you had in your book!) :)
     
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  14. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    There are more but these are the best. Some of the Campanian types, although rare, are pretty rough. Like this one, probably a Samnite imitation of Suessa:

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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Dooooaaaahhhhh..... Samnite! I love Samnite coins..... Nice job!
     
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  16. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Is is the plate coin in Hahn's Money of the Incipient Byzantine Empire (MIBE), volume I, second (English) edition for Justin I, 61a.

    The first (German) edition was titled Moneta Imperii Byzantini, which became known as MIB. In order to preserve the recognition it had earned, the extended English second edition title was chosen (awkwardly) to preserve the "MIB" part and you can think of "MIBE" as "MIB English".

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    Plate 9, of Antioch. Type of Sear 104. Note the mintmark across the cross to the left of the K:
    A N
    T X for Antioch.
    25-23 mm, 7.59 grams, 5:30.
    This type is noted at "sometimes with cross" above the head on the obverse and this coin has one.
    Ex Frank Robinson lot 297 in March 2008 and ex Seaby June 1976, lot 343.
     
  17. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    That's a lovely example of a type that typically comes offstruck. Not too long ago, I bought a complete run of Sternberg auction catalogues for my library. They are excellent for provenancing.
     
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  18. How about plate currency notes? Are y'all interested in those as well?
     
  19. Forgive my intrusion... I just noticed this started under Ancient Coins. However, I should add that notes are a lot more colorful! ...just sayin'.
     
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I would suggest starting a similar thread in the paper money section where there are people who collect these.
     
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  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    A very interesting thread, for some reason I love plate coins (I wonder why though....)

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    Roman Provincial, DOMITIUS DOMITIANUS, Octadrachm, EMMETT, Alexandrian coins - # 4241/2

    DOMITIUS DOMITIANUS, EGYPT, Octadrachm
    Alexandria mint, AD 296-297
    ΔOMITI-ANOC CEB, Radiate bust of Domitius right
    No legend, Serapis going right, LB in field (regnal year 2)
    12.79 gr
    Ref : Emmett, Alexandrian coins #4241/2 this coin), RCV # 12982 (2000), Sear # 4801 var (It's actually an hexadrachm in Sear)
    Domitius Domitianus, stationed in Egypt, rebelled against Diocletianus in july 296 AD and was proclaimed emperor. He was defeated during spring 297 AD. Diocletian decided to close the alexandrian mint, so the coins of Domitianus are the last provincial coins from Alexandria. Also, Domitianus was the only ruler to strike octadrachms (in parallel with didrachms, tetradrachms and hexadrachms)


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    Roman Empire, Constantius II, Light Miliarense, FERRANDO, L'atelier monétaire d'Arles de Constantin à Romulus 313-476 - # 1026

    Arles mint (Arelate), 3d officina
    DN CONSTAN TIVS PF AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Constantius right
    VIRTVS EXERCITVS, Constantius (soldier) facing holding spear and shield. TCON at exergue
    4,54 gr ; 22,6 mm
    Ref : RIC VII # 252, Ferrando II # 1026 (this coin), Cohen #326, RC #3993v

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