Treasure Ship Tuesday! Post yours as well....

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  1. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    It's Tuesday and it's going to be a scorcher here there and everywhere. It makes me think of storms and more excitedly, shipwrecks and lost coins at sea! That's what inspired me to buy this coin. I wanted to get a shipwreck coin from the 1715 lost fleet but they are too expensive for me, so I decide upon getting a 2R Spanish coin from the ship, El Cazador instead.

    The El Cazador (meaning The Hunter in English) was a Spanish brig that sank in the Gulf of Mexico in 1784. In the 1770s the Spanish Louisiana Territory’s economy was faltering due to paper money that was not backed by silver or gold. Carlos III, King of Spain, decided to replace the worthless currency with valuable Spanish silver coins.[1] On 20 October 1783 Charles III of Spain sent her on a mission to bring much-needed hard currency to the Spanish colony of Louisiana in order to stabilize the currency. The ship sailed to Veracruz, Mexico, where she was loaded with approximately 450,000 Spanish reales.[2] To be more precise, she was loaded with silver Spanish coins, mostly 8 reales, “Pieces of Eight,” It carried 400,000 silver pesos and another 50,000 pesos worth of smaller change, of various dates. At one ounce to the peso, and 12 troy ounces to the pound, that's 37,500 pounds of silver.[1] King Carlos III enlisted his most trusted captain, Gabriel de Campos y Pineda, to command the ship.[3] On 11 January 1784, she sailed for New Orleans, and was never heard from again.[4][5] Spain’s attempts to locate the ship were unsuccessful and in June 1784, El Cazador was officially listed as missing at sea.[3]

    Then on 2 August 1993, the trawler Mistake, Captain Jerry Murphy and home port Pascagoula, Mississippi, was fishing in the Gulf of Mexico fifty miles south of New Orleans. As it fished, Mistake's net hung on a snag. When the crew hoisted the net and dumped the contents on the deck, they found the net was filled with silver coins. The coins bore markings from the Spanish mint in Mexico, along with the date 1783.[6][7]

    Treasure from the ship was originally housed in a safe at the old Grand Bay State Bank building in Grand Bay, Alabama. In December 2004 the Executors of the Reahard estate hired Jonathan Lerner of Scarsdale Coin to appraise the coins. This appraisal was completed in February 2005.

    It is now administered through the Franklin Mint.

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    Please post your treasure ship coins as well....
    (Even if it's just a coin that's a treasure to you.)
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Here is an 8-reales Spanish cob from the 1682 Johanna shipwreck, off the coast of South Africa. Alas, I no longer own it.

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    I do however still own this Australian gold sovereign from the 1882 RMS Duoro shipwreck.

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    PCGS cert. #49106726.

    This gold “Shield” type sovereign was struck at the Sydney mint in 1877 and was part of the cargo of the British Royal Mail steamship Douro, which sank in a nighttime collision with the Spanish steamship Yrurac Bat off Cape Finisterre near the Spanish and Portuguese coast, on the evening of April 1, 1882.

    All of Duoro’s passengers and 32 of her crew were saved, but the captain and five of his officers- and the ship’s treasure of gold coins and bullion- sank with Douro in 1,500 feet of water. 53 people aboard the Spanish ship also perished when it too sank.

    The wreck was found in 1993 and salvage operations were completed by 1996. There were some 28,000 gold coins brought up from the Douro wreck. Most were gold sovereigns, but there were also some rare Brazilian and Portuguese coins.

    This Mint State sovereign is particularly well preserved for a coin which spent 115 years on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.

    Ex-Heritage Auction #3118, Lot 30083, 15 August 2024.

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  4. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

  5. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    Here's another, similar to yours Sal
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  6. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    Ok. Last one. This is not a coin, but it is from a sunken treasure ship. A gold nugget from the California Gold Rush era. Dime to show size.
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

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  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Here's mine, close but no cigar! lol.gif

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  9. Cazador

    Cazador Supporter! Supporter

    Well here is a fun little display with some random Reales on a coral encrusted bottle!! upload_2025-6-24_13-42-22.jpeg
     
  10. Cazador

    Cazador Supporter! Supporter

    Original receipt from the Real Eight Gallery in 1967 for an 8R. $20 Dollars?????? 3% sales tax??? upload_2025-6-24_13-52-15.jpeg
     
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