This MS64 1883S looks fake AF to me (eBay, of course)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Barney McRae, Jun 2, 2025 at 11:45 PM.

  1. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    1883s ob.jpg 1883s rev.jpg It doesn't look like the PCGS True View at all on their website. It looks dull and listless, and the bag marks do not match up. So far not many people are believing based on bidding. A coin in this year, mint mark, and grade has no business being sold on eBay. What do our experts think? @Jack D. Young ?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/286603646693

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I pass and stay away from fleabay! ;)
     
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  4. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    You know what's wrong with that coin and slab?

    Literally everything.

    Short story long, "Morgan" under the grade on a pre-21 indicates a counterfeit, along with a slightly, but very, wrong font. The coin, if genuine, would grade AU details, harshly cleaned at the very best.

    Yeah, it's got a list of problems longer than every US interstate combined. Those total 48,890 miles.
     
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  5. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I think there is a reason there isn't a full photo of the slab. Damn it, the Chinese are getting better with their fakes AND slabs though. :muted:
     
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  6. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    The font does look weird, but the photos are not very clear. That was one of the first thing I noticed. The 1 looks funky in 1883.
     
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  7. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Yea, and their picture taking skills suck! With all those cameras over there, you'd think they could take a darn picture.
     
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  8. The Half Dime

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    That's just it, they don't think people will notice it's counterfeit if the pictures aren't that clear.

    CDNs for an 1883-S in MS64 are $3,960 and $4,950. That should be a felony charge if it sells for this much.
     
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  9. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Oh, they have good cameras. That's intentional. Auction Kings has entered the chat! :p
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    One look was all it took for me to be glad that I already have this coin.
     
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  11. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    That's borderline crazy! It seems they like the basic label also. NO CAC or other sticker.
     
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  12. The Half Dime

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    Auction Kings: "We have crystal clear photos that make even the XF coin look Mint State!"

    Denver Coins Co: Hold my beer.
     
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  13. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    I think a CAC Sticker would be very hard to counterfeit; besides, if it was real, it would destroy upon tampering.
     
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  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    They might as well use one of these for suckers.....
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  15. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    Imagine how much time and money it would cost for every one of those.

    I doubt Check A CAC Check Check would be in business long though. They're like a 5th party, with 4 to go before something gets sent to 'em. ;)
     
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  16. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I like the "fractureless Slab".
     
  17. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    NASCAR sponsored coin slabs! :p
     
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  18. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Is that a new Designation :p
    FAF
    Someone missed the class on convincing slabs.
    No PCGS fail.
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  19. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    There's a good reason there was no full photo of the whole slab. That they didn't take a full one caught my attention too. My BS detector was ringing so loud, I couldn't hear my TV in the background. lol
     
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  20. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Then there is this when I tried to report:

    File a report
    This feature is no longer supported. To submit a report, go back to the item, tap the three dot icon, select "Help & Report" and then "Submit report." Or, tap the question mark icon and select "Submit report."

    I have yet to find the 3 dot icon. :rolleyes:
     
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  21. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I reported it.
    Would it be worth tying up some time and dollars to get free samples of this crap to show at the next coin club meeting?
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