ID Halp "S"

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  1. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Please tell me what the letter "S" on this coin as countermarks?

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  3. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I think you have a banker's mark, or a test mark to check for a plated or low silver content coin. See a similar S on the example below from CNG. The quote below is from a CNG description of this coin.
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    Mark Antony minted these coins from silver he received in Cleopatra's dowry, but there wasn't enough to pay his troops! So these coins were minted at a slightly lower standard than other Roman issues of the time. This sent Greek bankers into a frenzy, and for a time they tested all Roman silver. Antony's denarii nearly always have a shallow "banker's mark", while Octavian's and other issues of Antony that were tested often show a deeper punch. The reason? Pure silver is softer. And why are these legionary denarii so hard to find in high grade? Bad money replaces good; these legionary denarii circulated into the reign of Gallienus! Thank you, Harvey Hofer, for this (true) story. (Remembered from circa 1961 AD).
     
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  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    That cool "S" means that you should send that coin to stevex6 ... easy peezy
     
  5. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    THANK YOU !!!!!!! Then that means countermarks letter "S" on this coin and it's not "S"?


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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I agree. A banker's mark, and a rather interesting one.
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We always say these are Banker's marks but I am unclear on exactly what that means. It could be a mark that the coin was examined and found good but that could be an assumption. I could also be a mark of ownership so a thief might not want to be found with a bag full of S marked coins. There are many different style marks. S is not rare. Meaning? I have no idea.
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Not surprisingly, I've seen a lot of "X" marks. The "S" is intriguing, though.
     
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  9. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    S marked Sestertius Hadrian

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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    @Andres2- that's just because "S" stands for Sestertius.

    And that one was also minted in San Francisco. ;)
     
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  11. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    I think it stands for Sabina , Hadrian's wife. He said "" its that she is an Augusta otherwise I would divorce her immediately""

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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That's a nice Sabina denarius.
     
  13. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Why did they put the countermark "S" on copper coins? "S" = Sabina?
     
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    TIF Always learning.

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