2017 American Liberty Gold

Oh, hmm, that's what that was supposed to be. It's still terrible.

 

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Again? I'm guessing you haven't looked in your pocket lately...

 

Oy.... (roll eyes here). How wonderful it would be for the people you're referencing to line up to buy a coin based solely upon the race of the depicted. This, after all, is exactly what you're suggesting, and if you feel race baiting needs to be injected into this hobby as it has almost every other facet of life, that's great, but I personally can do without and can only hope this hobby as a whole feels the same. It would be nothing more than another terrible example of the best of intentions ending in the worst of results.

Perhaps we should stop focusing on such petty nonsense, instead caring more about artistic quality, and drop the politics. I'd like to think this is something you, of all people, could agree with.

 

Anyone who buys it solely for that reason that will likely be their first and last purchase though judging from the sales of the Civil Rights dollar (which also suffered from a poor design despite one of the proposed ones being fantastic) those buyers are few and far between.

If we really want to do things that attract new people, then lets get the mint to just make a stunning coin that can compete on the world level. Something that pops and draws your eye in or evokes a sense of national pride knowing that such stunning work came from the US Mint. That's how new collectors will really be drawn in

 

I actually kinda like the Civil Rights Act coin, especially the cool torch on the reverse.

 

Cool video of the coin. By the way, if the sole purpose was to get an african american lady Liberty, they had better options.

 

If they had went with the design in the picture here http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v16n41a07.html I think the coin would have been a knockout

 

Interesting. It says those were the CCAC recommended designs, but, obviously they didn't use that obverse.

I'm not sure how well that obverse design would have rendered in coin form, either.

 

If they could have pulled it off (which I believe there are mints who could) it would have been stunning.

 

Everything looks better in gold. I like it better now than just a drawing.

 

This coin is waaaay too expensive for the "bring new people into the hobby" excuse to be valid

 

This is exactly why the current mint products are pure crap. Everything is done digitally. The "Sculpture" is done in a computer, the dies are then produced using a CNC machine and the cameo effect is laser created. And we wonder why our modern coins lack details and look cartoonish.

Maybe it's perhaps that an actual plaster sculpture is not made at 10-15X actual size and fine tuned in the real world by a true sculptor. The master sculpture is then not reduced and a steel master cut using a reducing lathe, which gives nearly perfect scaled down detail reproduction. The dies are no longer sand blasted to create a more natural looking frost and then the fields are polished down to a mirror, leaving a fantastic looking deep cameo contrast. Granted, this leaves out the actual design process, but it leaves a lot out of the equation for arriving at a final design.

We do not have true artists creating our coin designs. Augustus St. Gaudens would be shaking his head and walking away in disbelief at the lack of true creativity and beauty. I share this belief as well. It's a total shame.

 

Excellent post.

 

I forgot, but I have that set. The $1 and the half.
I don't look at it very often.

But I do like the $5 coin.

 

According to this article linked below

'The Mint also announced some additional details of the American Liberty program, which will include a gold coin in high relief and an accompanying silver medal not in high relief, with a new design every two years.And subsequent coins and medals will depict other ethnicities such as Hispanic-American, Asian-American, and Native-American.'

http://www.coinworld.com/voices/louis-golino/2017/01/2017_american_libert.html

The design isn't going to change for 2 years? With the mintage set for 100,000 apparently. I guess that means either we'll see the same design for 2018 or perhaps the mint just keep selling this original stock and the program will have a gap year. I guess time will tell and upon seeing video of the actual coin I think it looks worse personally. Also I wasn't aware that Hettie Anderson the model that St.Gauden's used when creating his Liberty was an actual African American woman. Makes me wonder if the mint knew or cared to learn, probably not would be my guess.

 

Mintage of a 100k? Looks like the mint wants to do a high relief bullion program. 1 year is bad enough but two years just wow. Are they not capable or letting their fantastic "artists" come up with a new design every year?

Why isn't the medal going to be in high relief?

From the sounds of that release this series is going to make the First Spouse series look like a very popular one. If this is what we have to look forward to in the future I really hope some personal changes will be coming soon.

 

The Mint followed the 2015 American Liberty High Relief with a silver medal in 2016. The plan may be to follow the same pattern with this and subsequent coins.

I say "the plan" because these aren't being produced according to a legislative mandate. Any future issues will be entirely at the whim of the new SecTreas and administration.

 

The medals with the current design are already planned this year as the mints 225th anniversary special offering in a four medal, four finish, one from each branch mint set.

 

Got a very old phone , sometimes the - doesn't work. Yeah I don't know what it means either.

 

I like the reverse, but after going down with the ship with the first spouse coins, I'm not touching anything else for a bit. I've had a subscription for a proof and business strike coin since the beginning and now I have a pile of rare but undesirable gold. I like the set nowthat it's done, but if gold shoots up, I wouldn't mind passing it on.