Any VAM collectors still collecting them?

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  1. planman2014

    planman2014 Active Member

    I'm selling Morgans and have some nice VAMs and sort of surprised how dead VAM World is.
     
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

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  4. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    VAMming is not as popular as the amount of press we give it would indicate. :)

    Collecting higher-end VAMs is only possible for those with deep pockets, and even lower-grade examples add up given the individual cost of Morgans. Further, many VAM fans (myself included) much prefer to cherrypick their own, because so many attributed coins are offered at unrealistic prices by people who automatically assume anything with an attribution is worth a premium.

    It is very, very difficult to sell attributed VAMs unless they're in-demand examples offered in the right venue.
     
  5. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I had some but they were a hard sell. The only one I have now is my favorite 1900 O/CC
     
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  6. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I like to cherrypick my own or just buy a nice Morgan and attribute it when I get it.

    I think most VAMers prefer to do this which is why they arent so easy to sell. An already attributed one kind of takes the fun out of buying them IMO.

    All my Morgans are attributed with the exception of a couple of 21's. My Peace dollars however, well I havent found the motivation to finish attributing them yet.
     
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  7. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    As the age of collectors advances their eyesight becomes poorer. That and
    98% of VAMs need 10x-20x to be seen. I have a nice AU 1878 VAM 44
    triple blossom that I bought 30+ years ago. Then I could clearly see the
    target area,now only with a loupe. VAMs like most niche areas of our hobby
    are as rare as the collectors that collect them.
     
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  8. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    You have what!???
     
  9. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    To Cascade, I have a 1878 VAM 44 Triple Blossom.
    Encyclopedia of Morgan and Peace Dollars 3rd ed.
    Page 152. Bought from Bill Fivaz and confirmed by
    Randy Campbell in 1985.
     
  10. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Pics PLEASE!! :)
     
  11. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    With XFinity only working part time in my area and the fact that
    I am having trouble posting pics to this site there are no pics at this time.
    If you can give any advice on posting or if Cascade could send their
    E-mail address i will try to show pics that way. Tibor
     
  12. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    20170105_162330.jpg 20170105_162330.jpg 20170105_162330.jpg 20170105_162330.jpg Sorry for the delay! I hope this picture answers any questions about the coin.
     
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  13. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    The reverse. I apologize for the clarity of the image.
     

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  14. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    44A, as the clashing is specifically mentioned as the identifying factor. Sure would like to see if the radial die crack is there, though. :)
     
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  16. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    As already mentioned, my preference is to cherry pick VAMs as well. I prefer to attribute my own coins than have someone else do it and pay a premium for it.
    Nice 44A!
     
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  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    My thoughts exactly. So many pics yet that area is MIA lol
     
  18. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Where would I look for the clashing and radial crack?
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The radial crack is just above the 7th left star, between it and the E. That spot is not visible in these images. The clashing is in the "usual places," which I've circled below:

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  20. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    My coin has the clash marks and a VERY small die crack
    between the 7th star and the "E". It almost touches the star.
    What are the values for the VAM 44 and VAM 44A? I will try
    to post an image this weekend. Don't a large number of
    Morgan/Peace dollars have Clash Marks (30%-40%)?
     
  21. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    A *lot* of clashing can be found in the Morgan series. I think values for 44/44A are similar. Either way, the value of your coin extends well into 4 figures and possibly more. Too few reach public auction for a solid record, but I'd expect to write a check approaching $5,000 for an AU55.
     
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