When we detect coins in the UK sadly every so often the spade scrape's the coin or a flint scratches it...they get shiny like the op coin then
If someone had filed or chipped the OP's coin to remove the patina, there would be some signs of this damage. The picture in the OP is out of focus, I can't see if there is similar damage - but compare to the obvious file marks on the coin Andres just posted. Svarog, do you see signs of file marks or chipping? If not, it is likely fake patina that is flaking off.
Hi Physics, nahh, i dont see any file marks or chipping unfortunately. Intending on returning this coin to the seller, not sure if he would want to accept it, since he claims its authentic. What should i do in case he will not accept it?
I think it is listed as RIC 183, page 160. The left side of the first V is partially die-filled making the V look a lot like an I. I think it is genuine and the shiny copper is easy to explain. Someone foolishly scraped the edge. Is that so hard to credit? Not everyone is an experienced collector and knows not to fiddle with patina.
No, that is definitely plausible. However, if someone was messing with it, svarog should see some evidence of that. Since he says he doesn't, it raises questions for me.
IMHO, patina does not flake of leaving a shiny mark. Since dropping the coin would not leave this mark either, someone probably tested the edge. If I owned the coin and it was judged to be genuine and priced correctly, I'd "fix" the edge myself as the coin is very attractive!
not one coin is perfect, is it perfect you have to pay the perfect price. Thats what i have learn if it is real thats for me oke tooling shit happens greetings Did coin has tooling, but, i see it it as real who would tool a fake coin lol
I think Andres sacrificed one of his coins to show that there is shiny material underneath, yes? (that was very gutsy and a cool home experiment ... well done, Andres => I am a huge fan of that type of easy experiment) ... you rock Svarog's OP-coin ... Andres' poor sacrificial lamb example-coin Okay sure, maybe an aggressive filing is a bit different than an accidental bump, but at least the OP-coin now has a chance to limp into the victory circle (I always cheer for the under-dog)