Visible traces of copper, is this normal?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Svarog, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    I see, thank you Ken
     
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  3. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    Thanks David
     
  4. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    When we detect coins in the UK sadly every so often the spade scrape's the coin or a flint scratches it...they get shiny like the op coin then
     
  5. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    hi YOC, so this is totally possible?
     
  6. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Just filed the edge of an LRB with sandpaper , this is the result:

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  7. Svarog

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  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    If someone had filed or chipped the OP's coin to remove the patina, there would be some signs of this damage. The picture in the OP is out of focus, I can't see if there is similar damage - but compare to the obvious file marks on the coin Andres just posted.

    Svarog, do you see signs of file marks or chipping? If not, it is likely fake patina that is flaking off.
     
  9. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    Hi Physics, nahh, i dont see any file marks or chipping unfortunately. Intending on returning this coin to the seller, not sure if he would want to accept it, since he claims its authentic. What should i do in case he will not accept it?
     
  10. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I think it is listed as RIC 183, page 160. The left side of the first V is partially die-filled making the V look a lot like an I. I think it is genuine and the shiny copper is easy to explain. Someone foolishly scraped the edge. Is that so hard to credit? Not everyone is an experienced collector and knows not to fiddle with patina.
     
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  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Glad I wasn't the only one who thought it was legit.
     
  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    No, that is definitely plausible. However, if someone was messing with it, svarog should see some evidence of that. Since he says he doesn't, it raises questions for me.
     
  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :rolleyes: IMHO, patina does not flake of leaving a shiny mark. Since dropping the coin would not leave this mark either, someone probably tested the edge.

    If I owned the coin and it was judged to be genuine and priced correctly, I'd "fix" the edge myself as the coin is very attractive!
     
  14. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    not one coin is perfect, is it perfect you have to pay the perfect price. Thats what i have learn

    if it is real thats for me oke tooling shit happens


    greetings

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    Did coin has tooling, but, i see it it as real who would tool a fake coin lol
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I think Andres sacrificed one of his coins to show that there is shiny material underneath, yes? (that was very gutsy and a cool home experiment ... well done, Andres => I am a huge fan of that type of easy experiment) ... you rock

    :rolleyes:

    Svarog's OP-coin ...

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    Andres' poor sacrificial lamb example-coin

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    Okay sure, maybe an aggressive filing is a bit different than an accidental bump, but at least the OP-coin now has a chance to limp into the victory circle (I always cheer for the under-dog)

    :rolleyes:
     
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