1962 D Lincoln Cent Disappointment!

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  1. Defenderone

    Defenderone Active Member

    Just when I was going to include it in my collection I flip it and look what I find! Could this be a Planchet error or some form of lamination or what? All comments welcomed. Thanks.


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  3. Lawtoad

    Lawtoad Well-Known Member

    Looks more like a grease filled die or some other obstruction on the die.
     
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  4. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    it looks to me like the obverse got hit, the reverse looks like those with counter stamps on the obverse.
     
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  5. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Likely a struck through error.

    I can't be 100% certain, but if it was PMD from getting hit, I would expect to see some marks on the obv. I don't think it is a planchet defect because the the area around Lincoln's shoulder (directly opposite the missing details) appears to be well struck. If the planchet was defective, the metal wouldn't flow and fill in the shoulder during striking.

    And I would expect a lamination to show a sharper edge were it was originally attached. The missing areas seem to blend in to the adjoining designing.

    Cool Error
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No and No
    PMD - Post Mint Damage. Not an Error
     
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  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Strike through. It could be grease, but I would guess a coin fragment from an earlier coin.
     
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  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    PMD was my first thought but the damage looks like it would have to have been cause by an impact. I don't see any corresponding damage on the obv, that would be consistent with an impact or squeezing in a vice. The obv rims look OK and no dents or scratches on the high point like the shoulder or cheek. What am I missing?
     
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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's the result of a grease-filled die.

    Chris
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Looking at the E and the P from E PLURIBUS and the U from UNUM.. I can tell that these letters were perfectly struck. Also the top of the Memorial still has bulge formation from original strike. The obverse doesn't look good..Lincoln's ear is obliterated!
    Obv and Rev has scratches in many areas.
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  11. Defenderone

    Defenderone Active Member

    Thats what I am thinking...Thanks.
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Aside from the fact that it looks fine to me, the ear is opposite the blank space below the steps on the memorial. It has nothing to do with the area of concern on the reverse.
     
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  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I still think it’s struck through grease. Based on the picture, PMD would have to have been from an impact as there is no evidence of abrasion or chemical reactions.


    I can’t picture a scenario where the reverse was hit with enough force to leave a dent and not leave marks on the obv. I don’t think the ear is “obliterated” and a hard impact on the rev would have flattened the opposite areas on the obv, particularly in the shoulder area. I don’t see any evidence of the any design elements being flattened on the obv. In addition, The obverse scratches look insignificant and not what you would expect if it was sitting on a hard surface.


    Struck through grease seems much more plausible. This could also explain the weak but correctly formed E and P in E PLURIBUS and top of top of the Lincoln Memorial. I would think that if it was PMD from an impact, the letters would be deformed as the metal flowed away from the contact region.


    I’ll agree to disagree, but in my eyes, I’ll still consider it an interesting error
     
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  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I disagree and that's my final statement. PMD :yawn:
     
  15. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    magnifying glass in conjunction with some natural rays from the sun?
     
  16. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I agree PMD
     
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Why can't it be a little of both? Duh?
     
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  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think it could be the result of a single, possibly multiple die clash.
     
  20. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    But, but, Abe ain't got no legs!
     
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  21. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm inclined to agree, but it's of a character that would probably only answer definitively to in-hand inspection. :)
     
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