This was a forum purchase from our fellow coin brother, @Randy Abercrombie ! He stated that he failed to fall in love with this big chunk of silver. I adopted it and instantly fell in love. Now, I'll be completely honest, I know very little about these types of coins. I have a few questions below that I'm hoping some seasoned veterans can chime in on. This coin has a slight concave bend to it, the wildman being the outside of the basketball. Is this because this coin was minted on a roller press? If that's the case, I'm assuming that is also the reason that the reverse details are a bit mushy, specifically at 3 to 6 o'clock? I intend on sending this piece to NGC as it will fit in my collection better as a slabbed coin. I've seen enough of these to know that a LOT of them are details graded. Do you suppose this would be a details coin or could it straight grade? Any and all comments welcome and post your Wildman coins if you have them! 1661 Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel Thaler
I did have a friend of mine that teaches German translate the legend on the obverse. It came back something like, "Consider everything with care"... Which I thought was a little rich considering you have a wildman ripping a tree out by the roots!
As you may no, I have a thing for these. It probably will not straight grade but that is kind of the norm for these. A few of my favorites: and the one my avatar came from:
That's awesome, Randy, I'm going to have to write that down somewhere so I don't forget that translation.
Nice coin. I'm sure these were roller pressed, as was the popular method at the time. Many larger coins don't have much of a bend because of their thickness, but I have minor denominations that are thin and very curved! As Chris said, they are tough on these coins in grading, but I don't think it will straight grade. The good thing is, many collectors of these don't seem to mind a details grade, especially the farther back in time you go! I've yet to obtain a thaler sized version, but I hope to soon! My Wildman coins: Brunswick-Luneberg-Calenberg-Hannover Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel (over date 8/7) Hohnstein, 12 Kreuzer
Very nice pieces, Joshua! I really like the overdate coin. I'll be pleased with my thaler whether it comes back straight graded or details.