1799 Farthing - do you think this is PVC?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by croesus_amok, Mar 23, 2025.

  1. croesus_amok

    croesus_amok Supporter! Supporter

    Before I ask my question, let me just state that I know there is no value in this coin and any time or money spent on it will be about love and not profit.

    1799 Farthing Obverse 1.jpg 1799 Farthing Reverse.jpg

    Having said that, I love this coin. I love the chocolate brown color. I love that this is the first British coin with a written denomination. I love that it is circulated but only slightly. (I would grade it somewhere in XF45 - AU53 range, but I could be wrong about that. That may just be the love talking ... or grading.)

    On a close-up view, the coin has some gunk on the lettering and devices. Is this PVC? If it is, what can I/should I do to stabilize the coin? I don't want to clean it, just stop it from accruing future damage.

    Thanks

    1799 Farthing Close up.jpg 1799 Farthing Close Up 2.jpg
     
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  3. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    It's hard to say what's on the coins surface. I would give it a bath in acetone that will remove PVC and any oils that might be on the surface. It should not affect the coins color or affect the metal. I would soak the coin for 10 to 15 minutes so the acetone has a chance to breakdown what might be on the surface. After soaking the coin, normally you should rinse it with distilled water. However, if you have some bottled water that would be ok to. Pat the coin dry. If it did remove some of what's on the coin but not all of it, you can give it a repeat bath.
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    I'll agree, but would use xylene or Toluene instead, if he has it.
     
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  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    I didn't know that, but wondered...
     
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  6. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    I agree with the love for the coin, but disagree on no value. This is a great looking coin. Full of history and surviving features. It may be a lowly denomination but that coin scores high in my book.

    You got great answers for soaking and preserving the coin from other eminent members so you can’t go wrong there. A coin with a lot going for it, and while it may not have a high traditional value it definitely deserves the love it’s going to get. Collecting is not always about value.
     
  7. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    It's probably worth $20 to $30 so I'm not sure why you think it's worthless. I know some people think a coin is garbage if it's not uncirculated but many of us don't feel that way.
     
  8. croesus_amok

    croesus_amok Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you all! I have ordered some pure acetone and will try a soak.

    @Hiddendragon and @Spark1951 - I didn't mean to imply the coin was worthless, just more valuable to me than its monetary value might suggest.

    @Kentucky The history of the farthing is interesting to me. They were experimenting a lot at this time. The size is different for this issue compared to the farthing minted before and after. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_British_farthing
     
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  9. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    I was aware you didn’t mean worthless. I wanted to tell you there are many others who feel the way you do, and love certain coins as an art-form or just because they are attractive in a special way. I have dozens of coins that meet this criteria.
     
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  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

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