Is this genuine? 1806 half cent

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Adavis$$, Mar 10, 2025.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Usually.

    I think there have been threads here about "bad picture gambles" that turned out well. It is gambling, though.
     
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  3. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes but a legit seller has no reason to fudge photos,
    and a photo like that would be unacceptable and they would get a better one
    if they are proud of their wares.
    I bought a foreign note one time and the photo was intentional enhanced
    to make it look much crisper and cleaner. When the note arrived it had a million creases in it. I emailed the seller about it (deceptive photography) and never heard back. It wasn't a lot of money so I didn't bother wasting my time over it. I gave it to a nephew who has traveled around and collected currency from many different nations and he liked it. I couldn't bear to look at it just being reminded that I was a fool.
    People are so desperate they have to cheat people out of a few dollars?
    I don't get it.
     
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  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Bad photos on the Internet are the stock and trade of those who sell counterfeits on-line. You are buying a true "pig in a poke."
     
  5. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    I agree. If you can't take a reasonably good photo of a coin you shouldn't be selling them. I pass right by them when I'm searching.
     
  6. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I pass right over them too but I think some sellers are just lazy and think everyone trusts the slab so who cares. Deliberately juiced photos are also sellers to avoid.
     
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  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I used to buy A LOT of coins and currency on EB many years ago. With good results. While I still buy an item here or there that I can't get anywhere else,
    I stopped buying coins and currency. Fool me once shame on you.
    Once you lose the confidence and trust of the parent company to employ reputable business tactics, it's over.
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2025
  8. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    I’ve gotten decent coins before from listings with bad photos. Fewer bidders often results in a lower price.

    I would avoid the OP coin however as it appears the surfaces may have turned in the holder at best, or at worst the coin is counterfeit.
     
  9. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    I own several documented bad 1806 C-1 half cents and this isn't one of them. I have seen the counterfeiters try to duplicate the orientation/ rotation of a coin in a holder but this one is dead on to the NGC images. There are a couple of matching marks to boot...

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    I personally hate trying to make a determination on something like this with such (no offense) bad images!
     
  10. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Curious about the listing's actual images- the OP's look like taken by a phone.

    If those are the actual listing images they hid a number of scratches I would not buy...

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  11. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Duplicating the orientation of a coin in a holder for both the Obverse and Reverse the counterfeiter would also have to duplicate the orientation of their counterfeit dies when striking the counterfeit coin.
     
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  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I stand corrected.

    I think that the images were made on a flat bed scanner which created the colors that show on the reverse through the plastic.
     
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