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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Sean5150, Jan 2, 2017.

  1. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I agree. This is a copy (not marked as such) of an existing key date of the Morgan series encased in a copy of a TPG slab (also not marked as such) WITH INTENT TO DECIEVE, therefore a counterfeit produced by a (therefore) counterfeiter. ;)
     
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  3. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Item is gone. Someone was on the ball, on this one at least.
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Interesting question. Is it a counterfeit if it is made someplace where it is perfectly legal to do so? It is definitely a fake or a copy, but is it a counterfeit? (No I'm not defending the guy who made it or the seller, just exploring the semantics of the situation.)

    Because if it isn't a counterfeit (because it is legal to make it) then the maker isn't a counterfeiter, he is a copier.
     
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  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    If it is a legal copy in its place of manufacture, does it then become a counterfeit when it enters this country? Or, from the perspective of the US, was it always a counterfeit and it only became actionable when it entered the country?
     
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  6. Oldrdawg

    Oldrdawg Active Member

    Physics-fan3.14, I admire your philosophical analysis. I think it would always be a counterfeit even if it was legally made in country X and it would become a crime the minute it crossed the wrong border into country Y. I've heard stories that there is state-sponsored counterfeiting of US $100 in some countries. The fact that the host country supports it doesn't mean it's not counterfeiting, or that the US shouldn't take action to prevent it.
     
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  7. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    If you go by the definition it's a counterfeit when you are trying to deceive someone, so it's irrespective of legality.
     
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