Well I guess that's what makes it controversial. Believe me I believe the same I thought was A MD. they are saying sens it's a single strike method used in producing these coins. A lot of the defect is within the die itself. And the more of these I find. I tend to believe what they were saying in their article. If the die shifts so much in the strike, then they Would be other signs of MD other than the particular place.Believe me I have other coins that there is no doubt that it is an MD. But it when it comes to the one like I'm showing there is no other signs. I will try and find the other coin that definitely shows an MD. That way you have two different coins to look at.Like I said I believe it was an MD up until the time I read the article. Then it started making me look at them a little closer. I remember one time way back in 2016. I posted a thread about a rim cud. A majority of the members that responded to that thread said no way. Then a nice gentleman replied to the thread and asked me if he could display it on cuds on coins.So I guess anything is possible.So please have a happy new year. USMC60
But what you didnt read was that with single strike doubled dies the doubling occurs often in the middle of the coin and is more extreme toward the outer devices. We most commonly see this with the 2009 lincoln cent, the one with abe sitting on the log and also the 2016 DDR roosevelt dime. Im saying MD for sure flat shelf like doubling.
You're absolutely right I did not read that article. The one I was reading was on the quarters. Since a lot of them have been showing up in circulation. I'm not sure if it was in coin world or on the Internet, I was looking up I believe it was the arches DDR. And came across the article. It did not have any other information on any other denominations since it was not relevant to the quarter doubling. Even my recent update on my arches thread, even that one has a die flaw in the arches lettering. Like I said previously, M.D. happens and it's quite noticeable. I personally would not be bold enough to call them DDRs. To me it looks like a damage die in the lettering.I'm sure this will be brought up in numismatic this coming year.And one thing the article mentioned it believes most people do not take into consideration that these letters are not raised letters on the surface there impression letters. And that has to be taken into consideration.The only reason I'd even consider taking what the article said with any validity. Is because I'm finding ones with localized defect. And like you said in your post doubling usually starts from the middle out. The question I asked myself when looking at these coins and see in a localized defect. How that defect occurred. Seems that's another word members like using a lot to explain a lot of occurrences. I do not believe it is an MD and have to go with a damage die.DD .
I am no pro on error coins. I will however probably give you the most honest answer. I can definitely without a doubt tell you this is not a doubled die. I had a homestead quarter that I thought it was a ddr. MR. WEXLER said it is not possible with incuse letters.
You know I really got to start saving the articles I read. That's exactly what I was talking about a controversy. Some professionals saying no way in some professionals saying possibility. And the way John explained it to me was that the doubling was in the die itself. And that's what they're saying about these incest letters the discrepancy is within the die itself. And not by MD. And just maybe that's why the article was being published. Because of the difference of opinions between the professionals.By no means I'm no professional. But I do have common sense and if you take everything into consideration, and what's happening when the coin is being struck it kinda adds up. At least to me. And for now I'm just going to stick with damaged lettering on the die. Which if you think about it raise small letters on a die would not last long at the speed and pressure that the mint strikes coinage at. To me that's only common sense. And as anyone knows a consistent heating of metal will cause it to get brittle especially those raised Little letters. It just makes sense to me. USMC60
