A "bit note" from the FUN show

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  1. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I purchased this note at the FUN show. It has a denomination of 12 1/2 cents or a "bit." That might seem like odd amount today, but in 19th century America, it was quite common.

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    The Spanish dollar was divided into 8 parts, which works out to 12 1/2 cents. It was not unusual to have items prices in bits, not dimes.

    Members of my father's generation sometimes called a quarter "two bits." That slang term has disappeared today, but it was around for a long time.
     
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  3. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I remember the term being used when I was a child, as in when hopping off the barber's chair he would say, "That'll be six bits!" After almost a century and a half of usage, it died because (1) the older generation stopped talking to the younger generation so much, killing lots of expressions, and (2) inflation gradually made "two bits" coins buy less and less, thus being used less and less. Today's kids hardly know what coins are. There is one place where the term survives. Some schools still have cheerleaders who shout, "Two bits, four bits, six bits, a dollar! All for the [name of school's mascot], stand up and holler." Of course, they have no idea where it came from.
     
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  4. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Yeah, my dad used to say two bits all the time.

    Bruce
     
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  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The last vestige of bit pricing in the US ended in August 2000 when the stock market switched from pricing in eighths of a dollar to tenths of a dollar.
     
  6. alhenry92

    alhenry92 32 Year Old Liberty Nickel Enthusiast

    Does that have any relevance to the insult of calling someone a "two bit" chump or whatever else someone threw at them?
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The implication is that you can be fooled for a very low price.
     
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  8. alhenry92

    alhenry92 32 Year Old Liberty Nickel Enthusiast

    Noted! (No pun intended)
     
  9. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Seems like mortgages are still commonly priced in 1/8th% increments.

    I've taught my kids that "two bits" means a quarter and where it originated. It probably didn't stick with them though. My parents and grandparents used it a lot. Nowadays a "bit" is presumed to be computer-related I think. Also it seems like very few people nowadays say nowadays.
     
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  10. JimsOkay

    JimsOkay Active Member

    Great thread!!!
     
  11. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I've always thought that the idea that there are eight bits in a byte in computers comes, at least subconsciously, from the eight bits in a Spanish Milled Dollar. Of course, there are good engineering reasons for the numbers, but the terminology seems more than coincidental.
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Really? I hadn't noticed that. I'll have to watch for it.
     
  13. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

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