Daniel Carr Fake, I just Reported it!!

I'm serious. If it's created in a foreign jurisdiction a treaty or some such international agreement has to bring it in in order to have protection under the Copyright Act. And then, even when within the scope, these cases tend to be very, very fact-specific. It's not like two and two make four.

 

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Not if its trying to be entered into the USA. You can't buy a suitcase full of fake Coach bags in China and then tell customs its okay because you bought them overseas

 

We were discussing copyright infringement.

 

I am aware. If they wanna advertise it on Hungarian sites we are all aware nothing can be done, they didn't.

 

Daniel Carr has other causes of action. Better?

 

What are you even arguing at this point? It was pulled from ebay nothing more. No one is going to Interpol or standing before the UN demanding a tribunal.

 

It's about eBays internal rules regarding intellectual property rights, not about copywrite or patent laws and their international implications.

 

Cascade is right. What does that have to do with anything? Just be cautioned. This copyright issue isn't as simple as you're trying to make it out. If you want to know where your issues are, look at the Act, at 17 USC 101-105. And Daniel Carr is by no means without recourse. Nobody is saying that.

 

Of course he is that's what was being said. I don't even know what you were arguing anymore by this point.

 

It doesn't really matter. This is a Daniel Carr CoinTalk thread; it's all about page count...

 

You haven't been doing a bad job at that, yourself. I'll hasten to point out it takes two to "argue."

 

Yep. Peter gets a ton of traffic, Dan Carr gets a ton of publicity, and the only losers are the naysayers who - being a relative minority - won't ever be perceived as anything more than people carrying pitchforks despite some undeniable solid logic in their reasoning.

 

And that about sums it up. Reminds me of the Robert Mitchum line, in Out Of The Past (1947): "How big a chump can you get to be? I was finding out."

 

SuperDave , my perception is that you are correct when applied to the small minority of members who have actually posted pro or con on any of those threads. Considering that the vast majority have not made a public comment on them. It has always been easy to jump on a bandwagon, even if it is a small country path, but it is not statistically a direct relationship to all 40,000 members +/-. I think that many other threads have more overall participation by different members than any of these. You see the same members over and over saying the same, If a person goes back and counts the number of individual members who post, you might see it. Jim

 

Fake purses run primarily counter to trademark law, but several federal circuits are letting plaintiffs get away with coloring lots of things under copyright. Why? I can only guess. Perhaps statutory damages, so actual damages don't need to be before a trial court? Just one idea.

Until and unless Hungary is a party to international treaties or covenants that cover this. Is Hungary in the euro zone? Just checked - they are not. If they were, this site would have problems even without the eBay angle.

 

I was under the impression that ALL of our trade agreements have pushed the U.S. copyright scheme (life of the creator plus 70 years) on all other signatory nations. Not so?

 

By the way, am I still permitted to enjoy Carr's "craftsmanship" in his fantasy restrikes without agreeing that it makes him some great medallic artist? I do like his pieces, I try to buy several, but frankly, his original work has a lack of detail that leaves me a little "underimpressed". Especially his humanoid likenesses I find slightly "cartoonish". That said, I own some, and will likely own some more. Aesthetically, I prefer his fantasy date stuff.

Just the skill in correctly creating dates that never existed is a nice piece of craftsmanship worthy of its own praise category.

Heck, even the U.S. Mint couldn't make a 1918 Buffalo nickel without the date getting larger from left to right, and couldn't make an FDR Presidential dollar that didn't look more like Don Rumsfeld.

 

Make it Fort Lauderdale toward the end of next week and you're on.

 

The one generalization I think I can make is these agreements aim at reciprocity. I don't know the answer to your specific question, however.

 

The thread started by @davidh on 12/8 and locked by you on 12/17 got over 11,000 views in just 9 days. I agree with you that this thread was carried by a small sample of members, but you cannot deny the amount of foot traffic on some of these more controversial threads. Even if the majority of members are not posting on these threads, a lot of CT members are looking. TC